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"Dumb and Dumber" ???

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by David, Mar 8, 2003.

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  1. David

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    I was at Wal Mart tonight when I saw 2 guys in the auto parts department.

    One was wearing a Glock hat, and his buddy had a giant -- almost rodeo sized -- S&W belt buckle!!!:banghead:

    Wow -- unless you are a range, or an event related to guns, I think you are, in my humble opinion, just plain "dumb" to wear these types of items out in public.

    My friend, the recently retired cop, told me many times that he never wore anything related to law enforcement while off-duty.

    I would think the same applies in this case.

    Am I wrong?:neener:

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  2. Phyphor

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    Speaking for myself, I see nothing wrong with wearing shirts and hats advertising guns in public.

    It'll be a sad day when you'll have to get sweated by law enforcement for the crime of wearing a hat that says "Glock" on it.
     
  3. Hkmp5sd

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    I wear Glock, HK , TFL, etc. T-shirts and hats all of the time. I can see where a LEO might not want to wear something marking him as a cop, but gun related stuff doesn't worry me.
     
  4. David

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    Please let me clarify my opinion:

    1 -- Perhaps by wearing gun apparel, a bad guy will realize that you may be armed and either attempt to steal your firearm or, even worse, shoot you during a robbery because you might be a threat.

    2 -- Wearing gun apparel might take away the element of surprise in case you may need to use your firearm in a defensive situation.:what:

    Thanks...
     
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  5. blades67

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    1. You've been watching "Heat" and "Point Break" often enough you're starting to think that criminals are smart. During a robbery most won't even see you.:rolleyes:

    2. If it's properly concealed, it will always be a suprise even if your shirt has a picture of your gun on it.

    Relax, take a deep breath and remember that you don't have to wear a Glock hat if you don't want to. Now exhale, you're starting to turn blue.:neener:
     
  6. scottgun

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    No big deal,

    It might also show that you are a gun enthusiast. No BG is going to go after these guys, especially since there are 2 of them, no one is going to walk into a situation where the odds are overwhelmingly against them. I think more people should wear firearm related stuff. It brings it into the mainstream.

    I don't wear any gun advertisements, but anyone who wants to display firearm brand names as part of their wardrobe, more power to them. They are making their statement, and it isn't a bad one.
     
  7. David

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    My comment is based purely on "SAFETY" and has nothing to do with one's right to wear, or not wear, the hat, t-shirt, belt buckle, etc. of their choice.:D
     
  8. BerettaNut92

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    Now, that purse with the gun imprint was a pretty darn good idea too ;)

    Draw fire away from me!
     
  9. CasualShooter

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    On the way to or from the range, I've somtimes stopped at Wal-Mart to buy shells or targets and also at my local supermarket to cash a check, even, while wearing a cap with my Local Gun Club logo and the Jean Jacket that I usually wear when I go shooting with an NRA Life Member Patch on it.:uhoh:

    Does that mean I'm "just plain dumb"? :banghead:

    Should I take these things off and hide them under the seat If I stop to by a box of shells? :rolleyes:

    No, I don't think so. :neener:
     
  10. Justin

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    For the most part I don't like wearing clothes with logos on them. I'll decide to become a walking billboard for somebody on the same day that they write me a check to wear the shirt. However, for those who wear gun-related clothes, I'm not going to fault them.
    In some situation it may be a deterrent, in others an atractant. In still others it might not matter at all. After all, how many regular non-gun folks would recognize the logos for HK, Steyr, CZ, etc? If anything it'd probably just identify you to like-minded individuals.

    Back in the day when I worked at Target I had the opportunity to complement one customer on his HK hat.:)
     
  11. BerettaNut92

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    I only wear on range days. My HK No Compromise polo and Benelli Tactical cap are my standard range wear. They make me shoot better.

    Most days I just wear whatever. I don't have any loud gun shirts in my inventory.

    A guy at church liked my HK shirt and I found out he had a Desert Eagle .50AE
     
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    "1 -- Perhaps by wearing gun apparel, a bad guy will realize that you may be armed and either attempt to steal your firearm or, even worse, shoot you during a robbery because you might be a threat."

    Or the bad guy might see you as a threat and prefer not to do any crimes in your presence on the chance that he may be injured or killed. Easier and more safe for him to pick on someone who he knows or thinks is not armed.

    "2 -- Wearing gun apparel might take away the element of surprise in case you may need to use your firearm in a defensive situation."

    I think this is just a rewording of 1.
     
  13. Porter Rockwell

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    Shoot I'll Play!

    I'll wear my gold plated tombstone sized Freedom Arms belt buckle attached to the black basket weave metal lined gun belt(plays hell with the metal detectors!) and a black and red No Compromise H&K T-shirt over the IWB M-13. Then of course a mtching red and black H&K ball cap!
    I'm off to Wally World to troll for Mall Ninjas!
    Seriously Dave, the world is going to crap and a nuclear war is a distinct possibility and you're worried about what a couple rednecks are wearing??!!
    Why not just approach me/them and explain your concerns?
    Personally I prefer the gents in gun wear to the gangbangers with the Glocks and gold chains.
    Best!
     
  14. David

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    My point is simple:

    Why give a "dirt bag" a possible heads-up you are carrying?

    I think it is safer for my family and me if I don't advertise I am -- or may be -- carrying a concealed firearm.

    As I said before, this is just my humble opinion.:neener:
     
  15. Porter Rockwell

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    Why Dry Aggressively?

    Hello again Dave, since you asked then it may be so disuade/avoid being mistaken for a sheeple/victim.
    Clothing does make the man and many men may be accurately discribed as posers when they dress in their weekend cowboy outfit or the shiney new Harley leathers for example.
    Who do you suppose the "dirt bag" will choose to attack in the parking lot?
    A The Biker
    B The Cowboy
    C The Redneck Gun Advertiser
    D The geek in neon sweats
    E Insert your choice of daily wear
    I'll wager a cool grand it ain't A, B or C!
    It's been proven that the victim loses when attempting to outdraw an already pointed gun so if a costume could possibly help avoid an altercation then maybe....?
    Thanks Dave!
     
  16. David

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    Porter, I see your point -- interesting.

    I think there was once this question posed on TFL -- if either carry method was legal, would you choose to carry open or concealed?

    I believe, if my memory serves me, the great majority of posters stated that they would choose to carry concealed -- and many gave the reason that it would give them a possible tactical "advantage" (i.e. the element of surprise) in case they ever needed to use their firearm in a defensive situation.:uhoh:

    I was thinking along those lines in not wanting to wear any
    gun-related apparel in public -- especially those with well known brands such as Glock, S&W, etc.

    That why THR is so great -- it allows us to think about this and many other firearm-related issues from all angles -- pro and con.

    Thanks...
     
  17. LiquidTension

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    This is why I love my Molon Labe hat. I wear it openly and proudly, and nobody except other gun enthusiasts knows what it means. It gets so many odd looks...I can see people thinking about it..."Why are the 'V's upside down? Wait, I still don't understand it." I'm sure once or twice someone has thought it was some kind of fraternity thing as well. It makes me laugh when I see people trying to puzzle it out. Kinda goes along with one of my more frequently used insults, most often used when someone questions my arguments: "Yeah, read a BOOK."

    If I had any gun related shirts, I'd wear them. An HK polo shirt would be cool - BTW, my birthday is next month guys HINT HINT :D
     
  18. Matt1911

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    Seen a fellow at the hardware store with a knob creek t-shirt,no, i did not think he had a machine gun....,but it did start a conversation,and it turns out he lives just a few blocks from me,and has a range in his backyard.
    Now we shoot together.
    When i do were gun related hats/t-shirts,i do try to be well mannered at all times.Set a good example and all
     
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    I personally never buy an article of clothing with a logo whether it's Ford, Glock, Pepsi, Nike or Old Navy. If someone gave me something like a Glock hat, I'd wear it if I needed a hat.

    In regards to others wearing firearm logoed clothing, it helps me recognize friendlies. If you want to wear it, go ahead.
     
  20. standingbear

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    lol

    i had a macguns.com tee shirt on that i won on a bet.it has a lifelike picture of a mac10 on the front.stopped at a gas station to fill up.waiting in line, a loud harley davidson rolls in, the guy noticed the picture and struck up a conversation about macs.ended up an invite to shoot .sheeple standing around glared at me.had a blast that afternoon and made some new friends.
     
  21. jsalcedo

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    I like pro gun clothing.

    I wear Winchester, Remington and NRA caps and
    3 different NRA shirts.

    I'm thinking of changing my entire wardrobe to gun related.
     
  22. Unisaw

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    I sometimes wear a Rivanna Rifle and Pistol Club t-shirt that contains the following quote across the back:

    Let no man be disbarred the use of arms...Thomas Jefferson

    I would like to think that it causes a few people to consider how much things have deviated from the founders' intent. I would also like to think that staying in condition yellow will allow me to spot the bad guy before he has a chance to consider the implications of my t-shirt.
     
  23. TechBrute

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    I guess I'm "just plain dumb", because I wear firearm logo shirts regularly.

    One gentleman made the comment that he doesn't like wearing logoed apparel unless he's getting paid. I think that is great. All my gun shirts were free, and so it's like I got paid the $30 I would have had to spend on a decent shirt.:D Most of my wardrobe is made up of free clothing. I just have to find some gun manufacturer that makes underwear, and I may never buy clothes again.

    To be honest, I don't think the general public knows a gun shirt when they see it. It seems most people think my Glock shirt says Lock, Clock, or something else. When someone asked me what it was, I told him it says "Glock". He said, "What's that?" The average person doesn't know what HK, Blackhawk, or Eagle Industries makes, either. Also, have you honestly tried to decipher the S&W logo? Unless your shirt actually Says Smith & Wesson, it looks more like a gang tattoo gone wrong than a gun manufacturers logo.

    And one more thing. Do you have something against rodeo belt buckles?:scrutiny:
     
  24. CZSteve

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    Logos/Tactical

    Just some casual ramblings.

    I am on the side of thought that if someone thinks you are carrying they would be LESS inclined to try something.

    Premise (subjective of course:) ):
    Bad guys looking to 'score' are out for an easy hit and if they have any common sense (yea, I know) will choose the 'Path of Least Resistence'.

    BG walks into a fast food place and sees a LEO sitting in plain sight. Do you think he contiues w/ his plan or turns and walks out? I would imagine he would walk out unless he is mentally unstable and if that is the case; all bets are anyway and I don't think it would matter what you were wearing.

    Be safe & considerate
    Steve
     
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    I've read some articles where the author recommends not advertising your interest in guns in public. Several of them even said the reason not to wear them is they may cause people to believe you are a LEO and thus draw the attention of less than honorable citizens.

    Around this area, gun logos on T-shirts, hats and cars is very common. Most people don't even notice it any longer. Some of the more liberal northern and western states may prove a little less understanding.

    Another reason to wear gun related logos is the pleasure of watching visiting US and Canadian snowbirds head for the hills when they see your T-shirt. When waiting in a checkout line, they either become very polite (which is the exact opposite of their normal behavior) or suddenly remember something they forgot and head back to the saftey of the crowd.
     
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