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dump my semi-autos and buy a full auto?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by sernv99, Nov 27, 2008.

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  1. sernv99

    sernv99 Member

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    I'm lucky to live in a state that allows possession of full auto guns. I found a FNC for $7500 in mint condition. I have a PTR-91, Arsenal AK 7.62 and just bought a new Sig 556, all semi-auto of course.

    is going full auto worth it and dump the semi-autos? I'm afraid of wear and tear on a full auto gun or is this a false assumption?
     
  2. taliv

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    you want the FA cause you want a FA? or for an investment?
     
  3. I LIKE IT!

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    Ask yourself why you want it?

    Do you want that particular MG? Have you fired it and if so do you really want to spend that kind of money for it?

    Only gun I ever broke bank over was my NIB HK94A3(which I sold/damn bills)
    and a RR PP Mp5 which I'm patiently waiting to aquire.

    If I had to make that choice I'd keep the semi for political reasons.(don't think title 2 guns will be devasted by any new AWB but who knows)
     
  4. rfurtkamp

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    Obviously there's something you liked about the guns you already have - or you wouldn't have bought them. If you were selling duplicates or triplicates or quadruiplicates of guns (not that *any* of us have that), that'd be one thing.

    Just what you've listed will be lucky to cover half of the FNC.

    If you can afford the ammo, you can afford to fix it. ;0
     
  5. marsche

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    $7,500 is not a bad price to purchase the weapon. The real cost is feeding it, not fixing it.
     
  6. salvo

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    Most people that buy a full auto end up buying more of them. If you can afford it go for it. I bought a Uzi for my first full auto, it was fun for a little wile, but I was not like most people and one was more than enough. I sold it because I enjoy shooting one shot at a time. I never made so much money off a fire arms sale though, guess what I did with the money? Bought a few very nice pre 64 Winchesters and could not be happier.
    I'm glad I did not have to sell any guns when I bought the Uzi, think long and hard it may make sense for you, then again it may not.
     
  7. BeltfedMG

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    After a while the machineguns become "Just another gun in the safe" and loose the cool factor. I harly ever shoot any of mine, some dont get 100 rnds a yr put threw them and its not because i dont have the ammo, i have TONS, just prefer to shoot bolt gun at long range, or shoot the 10/22, point is, after a while you will wish you had more then just the one F/A. If your buying for investment only, go cllect stamps, baseball cards or something else, leave the gun for someone who enjoys the sport, not the money aspect.
     
  8. W.E.G.

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    Old fella I met at the gun show said, "Every man should own a machine-gun and a convertible-top automobile once in his life. That way he'll know he never wants to own another one."

    Machine guns and convertibles are for rich men who don't need a day-to-day gun, or a reliable car. You figure out where you fall in that regard.
     
  9. taliv

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    i'll plead guilty on the convertible, my first and last, long since sold. :)

    but no, machine guns, and even more so shooting them, are addictive. never really gets old for me.
     
  10. LiquidTension

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    I was in the same boat, trying to decide between an FNC and a Ruger AC556. I ended up going with an M11 for several reasons: different uppers available, cheaper ammo, overall cost. What I really wanted was an M16. If you're set on a full auto, the extra two thousand dollars for an M16 will be well worth it. Plenty of spare parts, tons of uppers from .22 to 9mm to .223. I've seen lowers and receivers for $9500 recently.

    Had to sell my Max-11 when my car died. Sad day :(
     
  11. Ohio Gun Guy

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    Isnt it a convertable, machine gun, and a blond? :evil: (At the same time!)
     
  12. MGshaggy

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    Wear and tear on an FNC won't be bad, but parts can be a little difficult to find at times. For that kind of price point, I'd really suggest a lightning link for an AR15 - AR15 parts are much more available and less expensive, and the AR has numerous caliber conversions you can sill take advantage of, even in full auto.

    As to the question some here raise of 'is it really worth it', I'd have to say for me the answer was 'yes'. I always wanted a machinegun and when I realized I could own one legally, I set out and did it. That was a few thousand dollars in transfer taxes ago and I still enjoy buying, owning, and shooting them. I may not take one out everytime I go shooting, but I always have a great time when I do, and I always have the option available to me.

    Occasionally I do find I may get a little tired of one, but there's no rule that you can't sell it, trade it off later for something else you may like better, or add a little more cash and trade up. Heck, I've done it several times.
     
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    I have a machine gun and a blonde, but no convertable. I guess two out of three ain't bad.

    When I had a mid life crisis I had to pick either a girlfriend, a convertable or a machine gun. Since I'm not a car guy, and already have a wife (the blonde), then all that was left was the MG.
     
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    I wouldn't. Though I don't even use the 3rd burst or auto settings on my M4 in the Army. I honestly can't think of a situation, especially in civilian range settings, where I would ever use full auto. It's simply an inaccurate waste of ammo. If you've got the money, get one if you feel like it. But it sounds like you'd have to sell a pretty nice collection to get a feature that is basically useless.
     
  15. sernv99

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    well I have $3000 already from a sale of a gun I just sold and my other rifles I have, that was when I wasn't considering a full auto. I recently got into hi-grade shotguns for sporting clays and skeet and I would probably use those more than a full auto so I guess I should skip a full auto. My other rifles, I don't shoot them a lot anyway, so far I probably put 700 rounds through the PTR and Arsenal. The Sig I just got right after the Obama gun buying craze.

    it was just a thought that I was kicking around and wanted to know more about the feasibility of getting one full auto or have a few semi-autos.
     
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    I have friends that own select fire weapons and love to shoot their ammo through their weapons, but I won't own one.

    I will invest in sound suppressors for my semi auto rifles though :evil:
     
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    I own a pair of M14 type Class 3 weapons, and a couple of others, as well. I used the M14 in SE Asia, and liked it enough to buy one in the days past. I also bought a Class 3 SA in the 90's.

    Just in case it was missed, many weapons are select-fire, and can be used as a semi-auto. I can walk a 2 liter soda bottle along the berm in the auto setting, by exercising trigger control. I learned that in SE Asia.

    There is nothing that requires one to own a Class 3 gun. However, the same logic applied to ownership here would have us all owning bolt-action rifles, and revolvers. After all,

    Oh, and Class 3 also encompasses the larger, belt-fed weapons. Big and bulky, they are, however, much more accurate in full-auto than any shoulder fired Class 3.

    One good thing. So far, ownership of Class 3 weaponry virtually ensures that your cost will always be covered when you sell it. Try that with your semi-auto.:)
     
  18. Al Thompson

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    My biggest issue would be the possibility of having .gov do something to stop the transfer at a later date rendering your 7.5 k rifle worthless. :(
     
  19. taliv

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    al, that is a risk, but it's offset somewhat by the "turn them all in" risk that might apply to everything that doesn't have a tax stamp. i figure i'll have some of each
     
  20. 243winxb

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    Transferable machine guns

    IF the receive gets damaged/unusable, there are no replacement actions. Finding a place to shoot it could be a problem. Many gun club anti-auto. 100 rounds only lets you shoot for 8 seconds.
     
  21. JR47

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    IF your Krieghoff Skeet Special has an ammunition related failuire that cracks the breech, you won't get your money back, either. They cost as much as many Class 3 guns.

    Gun Clubs are expected to include Liability Insurance. Some of them don't allow unrestricted use of Class 3 weapons because of that Policy. Many others do. I've never heard of anything limiting the number of rounds that you can fire.

    Why does everyone seem to follow the FUDD approach when talking about Class 3? Short of a water-cooled Model 1919, NO machinegun is used in a continuous fire mode.

    Funny, but the posters here seem to be focusing on the ability to fire indiscriminately, just as opponents of semi-auto, high capacity, weapons do. :what::what:
     
  22. 243winxb

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    The point i was trying to make is, no amount of money will let Colt or anyother make, replace a cracked or disabled receiver on an M16/any transferable machine gun. Its federal law.
     
  23. 243winxb

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    This States public ranges are limited to 3 shots in rife at rifle ranges, 5 shots at a handgun range for handguns. That goes for bolt, pump, semi-auto. Full auto is banned all together. At private clubs in this area, the dont even like semi-auto. Hunting type clubs have this mentality, sight in your hunting rifle in late nov., early Dec. and thats it. The high power clubs will not let anyone shoot full auto. Nothing to do with insurance.
     
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    Then you never seen a 30 caliber belt fed running , they only stop to change barrels when the rounds start cooking off in a to hot barrel.
     
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    I can tell you never rocked and rolled on full auto just for the fun of it when no one was shooting back at you.
     
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