Dumping empties more efficiently

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What I'm trying to prevent is dumping my rounds on the ground, I reload...

... I am using the now empty speed loader to grab all 6 at one time, and then drop it into my pocket.
This explains a lot and this information would have really helped if included in the OP as what you are trying to do is highly unusual...to say nothing of unduly over complicated.

People have been doing this for years without going through the gyrations that you are attempting. The more common way is to allow gravity to work for you. Aligning the speedloader with the rims, inverting the gun and ejecting the cases into the speedloader would be the easiest way to accomplish what you intend.

Please don't read this post as recommending, advocating or approving of this technique...it will build horrible habits
 
Oh, and drop that speedloader after its done its job. Don't even think about it.. have your hands do what they have to do and gravity will deal with that particular item also.
 
hey gamestalker, get one of them shotgun shell pouches you hang on your hip. just dump the empties in there.

murf
 
I have to agree with the others. If all you use your revolvers for is slow and deliberate bullseye shooting then great, pop them back into the speed loaders like you're doing. But if you will be competing in speed related matches such as IPSC, IDPA or Steel Challenge with your revolver then it's time to start practicing like you run your matches. And if you carry your revolver for possible defensive use then again it's time to dump and go instead of this fiddling around reloading your speed loaders. Yes you may be reloading but it's just a bad way to practice for any sort of rapid and instinctive reload if needed in the pressure of competition or, even worse, the stress of a defensive situation.

Get an old large size bath or beach towel and put that on the ground where you shoot to catch the brass. When done there may be a few off in the dirt to pick up but the big majority of them will be there on the towel ready to fold up and take home.
 
9mmepiphany said:
gamestalker said:
What I'm trying to prevent is dumping my rounds on the ground, I reload...

... I am using the now empty speed loader to grab all 6 at one time, and then drop it into my pocket

This explains a lot and this information would have really helped if included in the OP as what you are trying to do is highly unusual...to say nothing of unduly over complicated.

I agree we understand better now, but also agree the OP's method seems overly complicated. Besides, most will end up shooting far more rounds than they have speedloaders for.

As others have noted, if you don't want your brass hitting the ground, just eject as in the pic, but eject them into your hand (check out the end of my run @ 0:12 in the vid below), then drop them in a box or zip-lock bag. They won't be hot enough to burn you, and transporting them home in a box or bag won't damage them, so you needn't worry about that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFerCV3W4Y

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Notice that MrBorland only dumps his dummies into his speedloader so they don't get destroyed/dinged and to expedite his drill.. he's practicing drawing, firing, reloading and firing again.
 
Just to clarify, I think Certaindeaf is referring to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boGaIPyBNR0

Yes, I do dump the dummy rounds directly into the speedloader, but as noted, it's just to make the drill easier to repeat. It's also why I developed the lazy and bad habit of not starting off with empty cases to eject. I can't recommend you follow my bad example here. :eek:
 
By the way gamestalker, I think you might be overly worried about the strength and durabilty of the brass.

I pick up lots of left over brass at the end of the days of match shooting so I can reload it. From shooting to picking it up the brass is walked on and kicked around and otherwise similarly abused. Yet it's a rare thing to find a casing which was gouged or bent so badly that it's not useable. So you may be worrying about this aspect needlessly to some extent.

Oh sure, I'm certainly not above making things easier for myself. Hence my suggestion for the beach towel on the ground to collect the lion's share of the dumped brass without the need to grub around in the dirt.

Probably the easiest and slickest solution though is to just get some form of belt pouch and dump the empties into your hand like in MrBorland's video and then into the pouch.
 
What I'm trying to prevent is dumping my rounds on the ground, I reload...

As others have said, the brass isn't going to be damaged by dropping on the ground. And, if you aren't tumbling your brass (cleaning it) before reloading you need to add that as a step in your reloading cycle.

Dave
 
Did the O.P. ever say what kinda revolver he is using?


Muzzle up and stroke the extractor, shrug

My Revolvers,

S&w 617 10 shot cylinder - no problem

S&W Model 60 w/3" bbl. - unlike the snubbie J-frames the
Chiefs Special with 3" Bbl. has a full length extractor rod
and gets the .38 Special or .357 cases clear of the chamber

S&W 625 .45 ACP with Full Moon clips, - the extractor rod
is as long as its N-frame Magnum brothers as well as the
cases bing contained by the full moon clips is reliable in ejection
I also have the HKS speedloaders for .45 Auto Rim every once
in a while, it'll leave one empty partiallly extracted

R-
 
When I shot PPC, the standard was a bucket on the ground between our toes to eject into.

I just can't see the business of unloading back into a speedloader. That is a skill and habit I don't need.
 
OK, ya all made your respective comments. It was just a thought I put into action, and clearly I have over thought the process. I've got too much time on my hands I guess. OCD best explains some of my quirks.

But seriously, I just don't like dumping my brass on the ground, and not just because I don't like grit to get all over it. I have a friend who was reaching down to pick up his brass, and he got tagged on the hand by a rattle snake. That incident cost him his index finger, and half of the middle finger, on his right hand, he is right handed. This has had a profound effect on his shooting abilities as a result. Seriously, I have nearly been nailed by them suckers numerous times while shooting in the large public lands of Arizona. It's the tiny little 10" one's that you don't notice that present this threat.

But I'm not arguing that there is a better way to get around this issue. I use brass catchers for the AL guns, and because I don't like grit. in my defense, let me elaborate a bit more about the grit issue. When I reach down and pick up grit laden brass, it gets on my hands, between my fingers, and then on the firearm, and then the loaded rounds going into the firearm. This becomes a pretty big problem when your hands are wet with sweat too.

GS
 
A lot of methods have been used to save the brass and also to keep it off the ground. All very well for the range. But if you carry a revolver for serious purposes, please do NOT get in the habit of using some brass-saving trick. Get in the habit of dumping that brass and reloading as fast as possible, not standing around worrying about the brass getting dirty or lost. If you do, you might get dirty - under six feet of dirt.

Jim
 
+1

There is an old story about a cop who was in the habit of saving all his empty's on the range and putting them in his pocket so he didn't have to pick them up.

Then one day, he got in a real gun fight.
And died with an empty gun and a pocket full of empty cases.

It seems doing what you practice got him killed.

He was pocketing brass while the BG was reloading faster and killing him.

rc
 
There is also the (Bill Jordan) story of the competitive shooter who held off a rifle armed rumrunner with his .38. Successfully, even though he ended up with his pocket full of brass.
 
The moral of that story is:
You don't want to mess with a competitive shooter!

Even if he is pocketing his brass! :D

rc
 
I use a Trunk Monkey to pick up my brass.

Yes, they leave a mess in the trunk.

But it sure beats trying to eject the brass back into speed loaders!!

rc
 
I have lived and been shooting in the same AZ desert since I came back from Nam in '71. Haven't yet been bit by a rattle snake and for most of that time I was a 1911 shooter. And a rag in your back pocket, to wipe off those sweaty & dirty hands, would seem to be an easier solution.

Just sayin',
Dave
 
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