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Eastern Outdoors Show -- PA Folks Let Them Hear You!

Discussion in 'Activism' started by Penoe Hunter, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. Sam1911

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    " A boycott such as this one could not have been coordinated - it can only come as a result of the grassroots efforts of thousands of individuals. "

    And note, that's saying as well, that this isn't thanks to all the hard work of a few Industry partners, either.

    Just take a look at how this played out. The industry members didn't start to drop out until some critical mass of average joes managed to bring the message to them that they wanted the companies they patronize to join THEM in this fight.

    Gotta look and see who's leading the charge (the PEOPLE), not who's dragged along by the wave (Ruger, S&W, T/C, NWTF, NRA, etc., etc.)
     
  2. Guillermo

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    one of us doesn't

    I hope that you are right.
     
  3. mbogo

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    The show's been 'postponed'.

    See eastern-sports-and-outdoor-show-delayed

    "Reed Exhibitions has decided to postpone, for now, the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show given the controversy surrounding its decision to limit the sale or display of modern sporting rifles (also called ARs) at the event. The show was scheduled to take place February 2-10 in Harrisburg, PA.

    "Our original decision not to include certain products in the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show this year was made in order to preserve the event's historical focus on the hunting and fishing traditions enjoyed by American families," said Chet Burchett, Reed Exhibitions President for the Americas. "In the current climate, we felt that the presence of MSRs would distract from the theme of hunting and fishing, disrupting the broader experience of our guests. This was intended simply as a product decision, of the type event organizers need to make every day.

    "It has become very clear to us after speaking with our customers that the event could not be held because the atmosphere of this year's show would not be conducive to an event that is designed to provide family enjoyment. It is unfortunate that in the current emotionally charged atmosphere this celebratory event has become overshadowed by a decision that directly affected a small percentage of more than 1,000 exhibits showcasing products and services for those interested in hunting and fishing.

    "ESS has long been proud to participate in the preservation and promotion of hunting and fishing traditions, and we hope that as the national debate clarifies, we will have an opportunity to consider rescheduling the event when the time is right to focus on the themes it celebrates." "
     
  4. Sam1911

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    In this case, its the same thing. They can't "postpone" it for a week or two, or a month or two. There's no way the logistics could be worked out to do that and the facility won't be available for a simple rescheduling.

    They're postponing it...until next year! That is, if they are still even involved in gun and/or hunting shows after this. Them losing the SHOT show too would be quite a kick in the butt.
     
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    other news outlets I heard blamed NRA for organizing boycotts. Its whatever we all organized the boycott. And in my opinion it hit reeds right where it hurts, the wallet. That should be where alot of our boycotts should be aimed. Right for anti's wallet. voting with our dollar and feet is more effective than the ballot box at times.
     
  7. HOOfan_1

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    Hey then make it the atlatl and driving game off a cliff only show if you don't consider advancements in hunting to be relevant...

    This wasn't an everyday decision, you decided that some hunting guns were not allowed at your hunting expo....screw you...

    Your customers would have gone and enjoyed themselves, if you didn't decide to turn a certain segment of hunters and outdoorsmen in to pariahs....

    The emotionally charged atmosphere didn't overshadow anything...you yourselves chose to submarine your own show

    Congratulations for being idiots.
     
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    I wonder if the only reason they thought they could swing this is that you can't (sadly) use an MSR in PA...hey we rock in almost every other way.
     
  9. HOOfan_1

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    too bad this person obviously doesn't read this board to see my reply

    Ah...the willfully ignorant and willfully naive.

    You don't support the second amendment if you don't thing that the people should be armed as well as the military.....so please don't pretend that you do. Also please don't pretend to have common sense, you clearly do not

    Heck, the second amendment as originally drafted stated that standing militaries were to be avoided at all cost.


    Are we being invaded? Our own government is right here, we don't need to be invaded.


    The stupidity of people who think that the world we live in now will be the world that future generations live in.....

    Did the Jews forsee the Nazis coming to power in the late 1890s?
    Did the Soviets forsee that the Russian Revolution would lead to severe government opression?
    Did the Kuwaitis forsee the Iraqi invasion?

    The second amendment is to ensure a future of liberty. Liberty today is fleeting and is secured by the second amendment.

    The people whining about "what do we need assault weapons for" are the same idiots crying about genocide and government opression in other countries.

    WAKE THE HECK UP!!!!
     
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    Came across this link at the NRA-ILA website;

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...ocrats-dont-trivialize-gun-culture-86443.html

    Bill Clinton states that a number of politicians will lose their seat in Congress in the next mid term elections if they support the President's gun control proposals.

    Reed Exhibitors lost the Eastern show, and probably the SHOT show, by underestimating the passion of 2A supporters.

    Now would be a good time to correspond with our politicians and remind them of Bill Clinton's speech and the consequences suffered by Reeds. :)
     
  11. BullfrogKen

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    Well Jesus had Thomas, too.


    This is the most incredible grass-roots response I've seen from gun owners in my lifetime.
     
  12. Guillermo

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    I would love for you to be right.

    Where did you observe this response?
     
  13. BullfrogKen

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    Right here, for starters.


    All over the internet. I live 20 minutes from Harrisburg. The local AM radio station and their callers have discussed this non-stop for a week. 3 hours of a show, and the only breaks from this discussion on Monday was for commercials and traffic updates. Caller, after caller, after caller voiced their displeasure over this.

    These businesses did not voluntarily forego the revenue this show produces because someone at Cabela's or somewhere else said, "let's take a stand".

    They did it because we all called and e-mailed them and told them if this is their policy, we ain't comin'. And if you support the rights of the people who patronize your company, neither should you.
     
  14. Guillermo

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    I was not impressed with the response here.

    We had the same folks talking about it (mostly)

    As to the net, it was difficult to get any news. The one place had a running list of vendors.

    Obviously I do not listen to Pennsylvania talk radio since I live 1200 miles away.

    The vendors stepped right up. It appeared that Cabela's led the charge.
     
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    yep heard they may lose SHOT also. hope they do they can do their biz in the UK.
     
  16. BullfrogKen

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    The thing about a belief is one can chose what he wants to believe, despite the presence or absence of evidence.

    So you can chose to believe what you want, and nothing anyone says can change it.
     
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    I've got to agree with Ken on this one Guillermo, It was great to see folks getting organized, and it really impressed me with how fast it all went down.

    Maybe you just aren't seeing it, because there are a lot of folks like me on our forums. I post very infrequently here, mainly because I only post when I feel I can contribute some information to the thread, and most times, whatever I was thinking about posting had already been posted by someone else.

    That said, I'm an avid reader of these forums, and I take action on things like this all the time. I wrote several of the vendors about this, and I live in Michigan, and wasn't even planning on attending this show. The vendors that I wrote do business here in Michigan too though, and I would gladly boycott them, if they don't fully support the 2nd Amendment.
     
  18. Guillermo

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    Ken,

    Don't take it personally.

    Fb response was lame. Here we had 100 posts in what? 3 days?

    Admittedly I don't hang around other boards.

    I hope that you are right. It would be wonderful if this is the springboard to greater victories.

    We are on the same side.
     
  19. Bighouse Doc

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    Zumbo'd big time!

    -Doc
     
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    Was thrilled to see the postponement/cancellation. Feel bad for vendors who may be out $$ through fees or lost buissness. Personally, I will look to those who took a stand to cancel the show to do buissness with.
    A stand had to be made. Kudos to all.
    I live in SouthCentralPA, 45 min from Harrisburg. Normally I'd want to do the show. No way this year, or any year Reed Exhibitors are involved.
     
  21. BullfrogKen

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    Here is a very positive Harrisburg area news clip on the cancellation. Just aired tonight. It also speaks to the economic loss for our area. I think they did a great job illustrating how it was Reed's stubborn obstinance that caused this.



    http://fox43.com/2013/01/24/busines...-after-sporting-show-postponed/#axzz2IxRsbDx2

    Joe Staudt is a retired Marine SgtMajor. He spoke at the local Marine Corps Ball this November. He's a hell of a guy!
     
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    the positive stories are outstanding
     
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