"Egg Throwing Incident" shooter charged

[CARRY'IN]

I like guns. I like carrying one because I know what it's like to have crazies put a knife to my throat and a gun to my head and to be beat half to death....and those things will never happen again. I like killing certain animals because they taste sooooo good. What I dont like is people who do not understand that killing a human being is wrong wrong wrong. It is the worst thing there is (next to being the one getting killed of course). Go tell your jokes to the kid's family.

 

[carebear]

Carry,

There ain't a good, pure one (victim) in this tale.

It ain't the shooter, though he was the initial victim of an unjustified egging by kids who were as likely to have gone on to further attacks (less minor league) on others as they were to straighten up and fly right. (especially given their apparent lack of good parenting)

But, for the same reason, it ain't the kids either. They weren't shot for just doing nothing or even "harmless pranking". They were throwing hard things at moving vehicles, and apparently before hitting this guy hit a lady in the face while she was driving. That's not harmless, that's dangerous (crash waiting to happen) and ignores the unjustified property damage (paint and potentially glass) to other peoples hard-earned property. Under the law, just hitting that lady constituted simple assault and could have been resisted with equivilent or slightly higher force.

The point is, by restraining (by law) the injured party in such situations from immediately administering a justified butt-kicking, we have removed a level of deterrence that previously existed. Additionally, by society accepting parents saying nonsense like "they were good kids making mistakes" instead of treating them like the proto-criminals they are (and insisting such parents apply some correction woodshed style) the kids get the "I'm untouchable" mentality and never learn there are consequences for stupid, anti-social choices.

That is until Mr. Felon or someone like him comes along and takes them to the worst-case school of hard-knocks reality.

 

[c_yeager]

I don't believe the kids deserve to be killed over small crimes. I do believe that small successful assaults usually lead to bigger and more serious assaults. I do believe in prevention.

I agree.

What i am unclear on is how this has any impact on the crime commited by the shooter.

I agree that the kids commited a crime, and that they should be charged, convicted and sentanced.

Again, i am unclear on how this should result in a lesser sentance for the shooter.

The status of the victim has no impact whatsoever on the severity of the crime. by your logic, the kids could just as easily be rewarded for throwing eggs at a person who was clearly a scumbag.

 

[athlon64]

CARRY'IN
I like guns. I like carrying one because I know what it's like to have crazies put a knife to my throat and a gun to my head and to be beat half to death....and those things will never happen again. I like killing certain animals because they taste sooooo good. What I dont like is people who do not understand that killing a human being is wrong wrong wrong. It is the worst thing there is (next to being the one getting killed of course). Go tell your jokes to the kid's family.

If you think killing a human being is wrong wrong wrong, why do you carry a gun? What do you intend to do with it? Brandish it? Just wound people who might threaten you? Why not carry a non-lethal weapon? Also, since it appears you're in San Francisco, where do you carry that gun? Do you have a carry permit? If you do, congrats!

As for the kid's family, they're partly to blame, for not teaching him that it is (was) wrong to throw objects at moving cars that may injure or distract drivers and possibly cause a fatal accident.

 

[goosegunner]

If you think killing a human being is wrong wrong wrong, why do you carry a gun?

I think CARRY'IN answered that here:

It [killing] is the worst thing there is (next to being the one getting killed of course)

Unless you think carrying a gun gives you a carte blanck to roum around looking for poeple who "need to be shot". Because last time i checked that was the job of the justice system/police, your job is to not be a victim.

 

[carebear]

Unless you think carrying a gun gives you a carte blanck to roum around looking for poeple who "need to be shot". Because last time i checked that was the job of the justice system/police, your job is to not be a victim.

Technically they're supposed to look for folks who need arrestin', not shootin'.

That particular job (shooting those who need to be shot) is apparently still unassigned.

 

[CARRY'IN]

"What do you intend to do with it? Brandish it? Just wound people who might threaten you?"
Unlike most drones, who are either control freaks and thus terrified of losing it (most cops), lunatic fringers who pray for a chance to "legally" turn someone off, or the programmed response of fighting like you train and blasting someone if the conditions are met- I would indeed brandish, wound, or do anything that came to mind if I thought I could get away with not killing someone while preserving my own existence. All the training I have recieved expressly forbids this type of mindset but, oh well, we are who we are. If I die because I hesitated pulling the trigger you can post jokes about it.

 

[CARRY'IN]

Hmmm. Should have read before posting. "Most cops" may not have been the best words to use. How about "more than a few" or......."some".....or......something like that?