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Electric Bullets?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Michigander, Jul 9, 2004.

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  1. Michigander

    Michigander Member

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    Anyone hear of the ShockRound(TM)?

    It's a bullets that is supposed to paralyze the target with a 50,000 volt charge, according to Discover Magazine.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. JPL

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    Does not a Tazer, by any other name, shock just as sweet?
     
  3. Andrew Rothman

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    Nope, not the same at all.

     
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    If I must fire, I want the biggest hole I can get in one side and out the other.

    'cause if I have to fire, game time is over.
     
  5. JPL

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    Shakespeare is obviously lost on this crowd...
     
  6. Andrew Rothman

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    Nah, just too trite to merit any response... :D
     
  7. Jim K

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    OK, JPL, we'll shoot roses.

    If the guy has a battery (or that which we call a battery) that will do that, it is wasted on bullets. Every auto maker in the world should be lining up.

    Back around 1900, the Army established the Board of Ordnance and Fortifications. One of the board's duties was to review all proposals from the public for new weapons. Their minutes are pretty funny. One of the porposals was for an electric cannonball (sketch shown) which had a battery in it. The inventor stated that when the cannonball hit an enemy soldier, the battery would electrocute him. His letter informed the Board that he was willing to pursue the idea further on receipt of $10,000, which was the almost invariable amount demanded at the time by inventors.

    The Chairman, John Taliferro Thompson (yes, that Thompson) directed the secretary, Isaac Newton Lewis (yes, that Lewis) to respond that the invention was not needed. No one asked what purpose it would serve to shock a person already hit by a cannonball, although I am sure the board members thought of the question.

    (The Board has long been the subject of jokes over the famous letter rejecting the Wright brothers' offer to sell an airplane to the Army. What is not realized is that the Board received hundreds of proposals for flying machines each year, always accompanied by the inevitable request for $10,000 to finance experiments. The Board misunderstood the Wrights, and did not realize that they were trying to sell a plane that worked, rather than asking for money for experiments.)

    Jim
     
  8. Majic

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    As the bullet performs like a normal 9mm it still penetrates and destroys tissue. Where is it less lethal?
     
  9. Michigander

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    From what I read in the Discovery article:
    (emphasis added)

    Point being that a person shot once in the thigh (or toe, or arm, etc.) with a 9mm round can, in many cases, continue to fire back at you. With this bullet, even if it strikes the toe, the perp would be incapacitated and unable to shoot for some length of precious gunfight time.
     
  10. Majic

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    That still doesn't reduce the lethality of the bullet like they claim. COM shots are taken for 2 reasons. One is to disrupt blood flow to vital organs. The second is that the torso is the largest most stable part of the human anatomy when it's in motion. Under stress this is the easiest target to hit.
    Since this new bullet still performs like a normal bullet it has the capability to penetrate and destroy tissue which can cause death.
    Start teaching people to take shots at extremeties to not damage organs will result in more missed shots that could mean an increase in collateral damage, not a reduction.
     
  11. JPL

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    Where's Henry V for his "band of buttheads" speech when you need it...
     
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    It's not the volts that matter. It's the amps. Common misconception when trying to convey a powerful electric charge. 50,000 volts at 10 milliamps won't damage you at all. Neither will 100,000 volts be any more effective. However, any voltage at a higher amperage can knock you senseless.:what: Tell me the amperage involved, and I'll take it seriously.

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    Disclaimer: I'm neither physicist nor electrician, I just play one when the need arises.:)
    RT
     
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    Does the inventor realize that an electric bullet will not help a LEO stop a BG if said LEO needs to fire 40 rounds to hit said BG 12 times from 10 yards away?

    In other words, if a LEO hit the broad side of a barn from inside, how will this help?

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. Autolite

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    Cool ...

    Do the rounds come in 'less lethal DC' or 'evil AC' ???
     
  15. Archie

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    Hey, I'm game.

    If we have a projectile that is effective out past 100 meters, won't kill anyone, and instantly stops them, [hip mode]I can get jiggy with it.[/hip mode]




    Now. Is there any real world evidence?

    P. S. How much does it cost, per round?
    Does it come in common lawman calibers and will it shoot out of the gun I already carry?
     
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    You can be sure if it's Westinghouse..

    And if it's 9mm, it's not going to be very lethal anyway :uhoh: :D
     
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