Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by realcav, Feb 29, 2012.
I've read that Ft. Knox is/has come out with a dual locking safe. It allows you to utilize an electronic lock or a manual lock.
Read the book: One Second After
By:William R. Forstchen
It is a very interesting read about an EMP over the U.S.
But I wouldn't count on it working on a good gun safe.
I've noticed a very high incidence / percentage of Morons on YouTube where it comes to all things gun related.
BTW: Isn't a solid steel gun safe already a Faraday Cage??
I think it would be one of the safest places to be during a lightening strike, or an EMP.
Firstly, the potential for an EMP is miniscule.
Secondly, in the event of an EMP your guns aren't going to be your first, second or even fifth concern.
I have to politely disagree with you on the possibility of an EMP attack. I do believe that it is a threat; this is because when Iran tests' a new missile, a lot of them blow up in the air. A majority of people see this as a failure on Iran's part, because they didn't hit a target. But if you look at the requirements of a successful EMP attack, the nuke must be detonated at a specific elevation (30-120 miles) for it to be effective.
The wonderful thing about an EMP attack is that there is less radiation and no initial mass catastrophic deaths. The problem with an EMP is it knocks a country back into the stone age and millions of people die slowly. Also people will eventually kill each other for food to survive.
Food will of course be the main reason why you will want access to your guns. After several days, all refrigerated food will spoil/rot. Smart people would quickly start shooting any wildlife for food to fatten up, because soon everyone else will have the same idea. After a few weeks there will be a limited supply of wildlife to go around and healthy people will start the slow death of starvation. The starving people will then become scavengers and a threat to anyone that has food. If you have food this late in the game, you will again want access to a weapon to defend yourself, family, and of course your food.
Also, think of all the people that will die after 30+ days when their prescription meds run out. Think of all the nut jobs running around after their psychological meds run out. This is when you will care about having access to your weapons as well.
I do highly suggest reading the book One Second After. It does offer a unique perspective if an event like this did occur in our country. I don't know if it will happen to the U.S., but I do believe Israel could use this strategy against Iran and that it is possibly high on their list.
If you really have a lot of time on your hands, look at the PDF files from the EMP commission report from 2001(http://empcommission.org/).
Just something to think about,
If not, this sounds like a good reason to keep them under the bed.
Use a mechanical lock if you're really concerned.
This seems like a huge amount of speculation. I'm pretty sure my Bronze Age implements will be unaffected...
But the electronic keypad isn't inside of the safe, it's on the outside. Would that make a difference?
I've been working in Oak Ridge (yes, THAT Oak Ridge) most of the 30+ years of my professional life. There is NO credible threat of EMP any more.
I have a buddy from high school that has worked there for years. He had the only business card at the reunion that said "Y-12 Nuclear Weapons Plant", if I recall correctly.
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The vulnerability to EMP is high, but the threat of EMP isn't. The EMP commission looked at vulnerability. With risk assessment being a combination of the vulnerability assessment and threat assessment our risk is low. We're more vulnerable than we were in the '70s making the consequences of EMP more catastrophic, but the threat is negligible now in this century. That could change, but unlikely to increase.
My best friend was the Flight Engineer on the E-4, spanning two Presidential administrations. He says their job was to follow Air Force One around, and to pick up the President and other useful folks in the event of a Really, Really Bad Day and the festivities would then be directed from there. He was also the Flight Engineer on the YAL-1A Airborne Laser Test Bed, tracking and destroying a boosting ballistic missile in flight.
Recently retired and still in contact with his flight group at Offutt, I asked him about ten minutes ago if he would describe EMP as still being a credible threat, his response was "HELL yes!" He did say that IF it ever happens, I will have bigger things to worry about than my safe.
A feature I like on some of the electronic safes we sell is that the keyed lock is hidden behind a logo plate on the door. It requires that a couple of screws be removed to expose the keyed lock.
It might dissuade someone from attempting to open the keyed lock. I remember seeing a big flap in the news about people being able to defeat the same type of lock on bicycles (I believe Kryptonite was the brand) using the body from a bic pen. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that.
One Second After is a fantastic book but some of the actual effects are overstated. Society would go straight to hell and the global effects would certainly be catastrophic, but it is an exaggeration that all items containing an electrical circuit are instantly and irreparably destroyed. Autos are actually fairly resistant to EMP, but gas pumps are going to be toast.
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