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Epic fail

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by SSN Vet, Jan 22, 2013.

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  1. SSN Vet

    SSN Vet Member

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    I'll start with a confession... I habitually use too much LLA on my cast boolits. I just can't seem to stop until their all golden brown.

    So after a sizable 9mm loading session tonight, I had a pile of some 200 finished cartridges with gummy bullets that needed cleaning up. So I figure, lots of you guys are tumbling your finished rounds... I'll give that a try.

    NOT!

    The walnut media stuck to the gummy bullet ends made a royal mess.

    Now I have to wipe them all down by hand with a rag damp with mineral spirits.

    Argh!!
     
  2. J.R.W.

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    That's not so bad. I usually do that anyways to clean them up all nice and purdy after loading.
     
  3. Captaingyro

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    Don't feel bad. I tumbled some unfired Lake City 7.62 brass that the bullets had been pulled from. Know what sticks to that tar residue in the necks? Corncob.

    Fortunately, I only did a few as a test, but what a PITA.
     
  4. blarby

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    key :

    Use less LLA, as many have specifically advised.

    If you add pure mineral spirits to your tumbling media, it should clear all that off.
     
  5. SSN Vet

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    Could anyone recommend how much to add?

    Typical size (Franklin Arsenal) tumbler
    Walnut media
    ~180 loaded cases
     
  6. RustHunter87

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    adding flammable liquids to your tumbler may not be a good idea, dosent seem like one to me at lest
     
  7. ljnowell

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    People have been doing it for years. its not going to hurt anything. Its not like you are filling up the tumbler and wet tumbling them.
     
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    you only add a cap full or two. not enough to hurt anything.
     
  9. blarby

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    i use about an ounce for real dirty cases- about half that for final assembly tumbling.
     
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    Did I miss something? Are you tumbling live rounds? I was schooled that that is a pretty big no no. Am I wrong?
     
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    You should use just enough LLA to put a light haze on the tumbled bullets. Any more and you are just using it to create smoke and stick-um.

    If you use 45/45/10 sparingly, you would have a light brown haze on the bullets that feels like hard wax. Powder will easily brush off the bullets with your fingers and if you are anal about wanting a shiny bullet top, you could use a paper towel to wipe off the haze with a "twist" after seating each bullet.
     
  12. rcmodel

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    Probably.

    How do you think factory ammo gets that shiny?

    Yes, they tumble it after it is loaded.
    You may even find tumbling media in the factory hollow-point bullets sometimes.

    rc
     
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    Like said above, factory gets tumbled before it's packaged so I see no reason not to do the same.
     
  14. SSN Vet

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    I wiped them down with rag damp with MS.... was a good opportunity to QC my work. Pulled one out with a split neck, and another that had a bad bullet (out of a production run of ~550 cartridges). I also touched up a couple verdigris spots with emmory paper to facilitate feeding.

    Having a hard time shifting gears from manually feeding the cases onto the turret press (and inspecting each one) to working with an automatic case feeder on a progressive press.

    I sorted all my 9mm brass by head stamp and pulled out quite a few with heavy verdigris, all the .380 atuos and the occasional .40 S&W that made it past the initial sort. But in the future, I'm going to have to inspect these a little closer.
     
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  15. Cosmoline

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    This is part of the reason I switched to a thumbler and wet media. Works great, doesn't abuse the brass and cleans up a LOT easier.
     
  16. RustyFN

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    It is perfectly safe to do. I don't tumble pistol ammo but I do tumble my rifle ammo after it's loaded to remove the case lube.
     
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