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Epitaph for the Assualt Weapons Ban

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Captaingyro, Mar 21, 2013.

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  1. bds

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    But I am worried about what HAVE passed already and what CAN pass in the future.

    We must not only work to prevent any future anti-gun bills but work on REVERSING the ones already passed.

    While I am grateful of this "battle" victory, we cannot and must not rest as this war is far from over.
     
  2. BSA1

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    The AWB is a Red Herring.

    Senator Feinstein is no fool. She is very shrewd and cunning. She knew before she introduced the AWB it was d.o.a. With the bill being pronounced dead both sides can claim victory...Feinstein on principle of trying to save the children, pro 2A on protecting the Constitution.

    She is counting on majority of gun owners believing the threat is over and quit paying attention to Congress.

    As already commented on a weapons/magazine/ammunition ban is far from dead and more dangerous than before as now it can be added to a bill the Republicans will be hard to vote against such as a defense spending bill.
     
  3. Ignition Override

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    Johnny Dollar:
    Let's continually spread your comments on every known US gun website and the downward slide in gun (and ammo) prices would accelerate.
    Last night "Ammoman" had about six rifle and three types of handgun ammo.

    But many people always look for a reason to be anxious.
    It is so profitable if it is promoted far and wide-at least for a while......until the sellers become anxious to dump their goods.
     
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  4. SabbathWolf

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    LOL...
    I'm a happy camper right now and I understand completely why you are too.
    I sincerely doubt anybody here is unhappy that we succeeded in stopping this frontal assault for now.

    I think they are just reminding people that you still have to watch your flanks and rear too.
    Sometimes it's a lot easier for a very small team to penetrate your lines covertly than it is for a battalion to attack you head on. Just because you won a specific battle, that still doesn't mean you are now safe to pull all your guys in from the LP/OP's and stand everybody down from guard duty.

    Once you get cocky and lose focus, bad things can still happen. Just ask Custer.

    ;)
     
  5. Flopsweat

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    I doubt that the more calculating of our opponents ever expected an AWB to pass. The real goal has to be universal background checks, which today have a lot more support than an AWB. I said this before and I'll say it again: If/when nothing passes, Obama will make a grand speech about how the Evil Republicans have once again blocked him at every turn and they just don't care about our children. Then he will do exactly what he told us he would (for once) and use executive power and regulations (BATFE, EPA, whatever will do the most damage) to infringe on our rights as much as he possibly can.

    So no, it's not over by a long shot.
     
  6. SabbathWolf

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    LOL...

    OK then. You go dance in the streets and worry about gambling.
    If you are right, then awesome.
    Meanwhile, a lot of the rest of us will still be watching this stuff at both Federal and State levels because it's important to us.
     
  7. kwguy

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    The UBC is insidious. Here's my question: Have they even talked about implementation yet? I mean, will it be like "lets go to the local FFL and have them do and NICS check for a fee, with no record in the bound book"? or something else? Anyone seen anything?
     
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    Google "hubris" and you'll find my thoughts on this sentiment. This was a skirmish, not the war. The upcoming months are even more dangerous. Feinstein's over the top ban was written before Sandy Hook ever happened (she admitted as much) and the rest of the antis are using it as a stalking horse to provide cover for all the incremental amendments they will attach to other bills.

    If they really cared about public safety they would allow private buyers to do a voluntary "self-check" through NICS and print a certificate with a QR code allowing private sellers to see they aren't a prohibited person. If such a system were available I would make use of it as a private seller. But we all know public safety isn't the real motive here...
     
  9. kwguy

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    There is no "winning" this, and then calling it "done". It will continue to be a fight, and it will never end. Quite frankly, this is a fight that we have been losing since the beginning of the last century, if you take a look at what we have given up in terms of the 2nd Amendment (Sullivan, NFA, 1968 GCA). Those are all losses. We have to fight to make sure those losses don't continue, let alone to regain what we have ALREADY lost.

    Just sayin'...
     
  10. Texshooter

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    We are in NO position

    to be writing epitaphs on anything.

    Keep calling, keep emailing, keep mailing, keep texting your Sen, Reps on all levels.

    This will not be dead until we kill it, bury it, dig it up, kill it again harder and then spit on its grave.

    Push harder NOW.
     
  11. Texshooter

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    Exactly right.

    In my communications to my Reps I have also requested repeal of the NFA & GCA.

    Make them prove to us how they can fight crime by making criminals of honest citizens.
     
  12. SabbathWolf

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    Whatever you say......:rolleyes:
     
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    Don't confuse winning a battle with winning the war.
     
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    The fight isn't over just because AWB 2013 was denied a floor vote. Senator Reid has promised a ban on "assault weapons" and a ban on magazines will appear as amendments to a comprehensive bill including universal background checks, added penalties for "trafficking", magazine capacity restrictions, etc. While an AWB amendment is likely to be voted down as part of that comprehensive bill it will still receive a vote in the Senate.

    As to the House of Representatives, they are unlikely to pass any form of a ban. Without such legislation passing the House there will be no bill to be signed by POTUS.

    BUT, as we've seen in NY and now in CO the Anti President, VP, Senators and other Antis like Mayor Bloomberg are now focusing on local and state pressure to pass bans into law. This part of the chess game can be terribly damaging as part of an overall campaign. What happens when there are more states with bans in place and the balance of power in Congress shifts further in favor of the Antis? If states have bans it makes it easier to sell the same bans in Congress if the balance of power shifts for the Senate and the House.

    Our goal should be to replace the vulnerable supporters of these bans and replace them with people that either outright support the 2A or are wise enough to at least refuse to vote for bans. If we do this we can demonstrate the peril to the Anti politicians of attacking law abiding Americans and their RKBA.
     
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    Johnny Dollar, how many decades is your wager good for?
     
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    36 years ago my coach always said stay low with your feet apart and chopping.

    They will keep coming just from another angle.
     
  17. mastiffhound

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    They are just playing at back-dooring us by adding the AWB as an amendment on a different bill like they did in 1994. It isn't over fellas.
     
  18. ICE1210

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    The only sensible AWB epitaph: "I'll be back".
     
  19. JTHunter

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    I don't think it is "over" either.
    Whether or not Feinstein is a cunning old fox is immaterial. As long as the Democratic Party continues to exist in its current form, the Constitution will never be "safe".
    Remember this quote by C. S. Lewis ("Alice Through the Looking Glass"):

    :cuss::banghead:
     
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