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Ethical or not? Selling gun with problems

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by friscolatchi, Oct 7, 2011.

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Ethical or not: Personal sale of firearm with defect.

Poll closed Nov 6, 2011.
  1. I would not sell/trade defective firearm.

    100 vote(s)
    51.3%
  2. I would sell/trade defective firearm.

    26 vote(s)
    13.3%
  3. Depends

    69 vote(s)
    35.4%
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  1. friscolatchi

    friscolatchi Member

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    I have started a poll that should pique your interests. Would you sell or trade a firearm that you own, knowing that there is a problem, FTF, "Dead Trigger", etc, without first notifying the buyer? The ensuing conversation may be lively.
     
  2. 303tom

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    No !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Loosedhorse

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    The ensuing conversation will be one-sided, as it should be: there is only one right answer here.

    Sometimes items are sold "as is," which I think should mean "if you find a problem I didn't know about, that's on you; so inspect it carefully before you buy." But that's different from hiding a problem you do know about.

    (I can't answer your poll, because I would be happy to "sell/trade defective firearm," with full disclosure.)
     
  4. jon86

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    How can you sleep at night if you're even considering this?
     
  5. friscolatchi

    friscolatchi Member

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    Great responses 2A brothers. That was quick! I barely hit enter! I agree I vote no. I'm currently sending my 9c to s&w for "dead trigger.
     
  6. WinThePennant

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    Of course the answer is NO.

    A major reason why I tend to stay away from used guns is because there are a million stories about someone who bought a used gun that is loaded with problems.
     
  7. M-Cameron

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    im pretty sure everyone here is going to be in agreement in saying "NO!"


    theres no problem selling a firearm (or anything for that matter) that has problems.......so long as you notify the buyer of those problems.
     
  8. kk0g

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    If you have to ask if something is ethical or not.......................
     
  9. welldoya

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    I certainly could never do that. I wouldn't want it done to me so I wouldn't do it to anybody else.
     
  10. mdauben

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    I would have no problems with selling a gun with problems, but only if I told the buyers. I figure that unknown problems are one of the things a buyer takes a chance on when buying used, but actually concealing problems is dishonest.
     
  11. Hardware

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    Full disclosure when advertising the gun for sale. Otherwise fix it and sell it. If the fix price exceeds the value of the gun save it for the next gun buy back.
     
  12. Tallinar

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    No. I have sold guns that had issues, but I gave full disclosure, and have never had a buyer come back to me with complaints. So I chose "Depends" for the poll answer. I would sell a defective firearm - but never without full disclosure to the buyer.
     
  13. Skribs

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    Same here. If I were more knowledgable about what things are supposed to look like and how to fix them (I'm only a slightly better option than Tim Taylor for DIY stuff), I might buy new, but I figure I'll have a much better guarantee if I buy NIB.
     
  14. Bubbles

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    Sell with full disclosure. Plenty of gunsmiths like to buy broken guns for parts, or to see if they're repairable.
     
  15. NMGonzo

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    Why are you even considering such thing.
     
  16. stork

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    I also have to reply "depends" from this perspective.

    I am very picky about retaining any centerfire rifle that won't group well under an inch. If, after considerable experimentation, it won't group to my satisfaction it goes down the road. I will reveal to the potential buyer my best groups, if they want to know. But the last one I had to sell was 20+ years ago. It was a Ruger 77 in 338 win mag and never got under 1 1/2" with any combo. 99% of shooters aren't that picky. Most of my purchases now are custom builds so getting them to shoot under the inch mark is very easy.

    If the issue was anything that might endanger a shooter, I would not sell the firearm. If it was dependability, that must be divulged to the buyer.

    FWIW
     
  17. cleardiddion

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    Last I sold one that people would consider defective was two years ago.
    A Lithgow No1 Mk3 which had been relegated at one time to training, as indicated by the stripe on the stock and would not shoot at 100yds without the sights being cranked up to 400m.

    Sold that one with full disclosure of it's origins and defects.
     
  18. CoRoMo

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    Poll is insufficient because it's asking if you'd sell a defective gun or not. I'm certainly not going to KEEP a piece of junk gun, so yes, I'd sell it off. The poll should have included the option of disclosure about the gun's condition. I'm not going to withhold that info from the buyer, I'll fully disclose the condition of the gun.
     
  19. brnmuenchow

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    If it were dangerous and should NEVER be fired..NO!!! If it were more of a resto that could be fixed or used as a display as long as the new potential buyer is made FULLY AWARE than yes. I really think it depends.
     
  20. friscolatchi

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    NMGONZO,

    I'm a little thin skinned...


    What makes you think that I was considering this? I have suffered and fixed this pistol, sending it back to Smith for a failure to feed problem and actually paid for an action job. I like to consider buying used guns and have to consider inherent problems and usually look through the forums and websites looking for info before I buy.

    Considering that any firearm is a SD piece, I personally would either repair, inform the prospective buyer or just keep the gun. It's no loss to me.

    I have found in my only 5 years of exercising my RTKBA, that this is a brotherhood of sorts. I would not do to anyone what I would no want done to me. That's my creedo. It may come as a surprise but all New Yorkers are not bad.

    I just would like to know how people feel about this. Maybe it's a dumb thread.
    I'l ask the moderator to close it.
     
  21. Mike1234567

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    I would NEVER be dishonest. This country is sinking deeper and deeper into garbage, IMHO, if one even feels the need to ask such a question. What the heck??
     
  22. CoRoMo

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    Tell us how you really feel Mike. And make your text/font a little bigger, bolder, and use a good color so that it will stand out.

    :neener:
     
  23. Mike1234567

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    What can I say? I felt the need to SHOUT!!

    :evil::evil::evil::evil::evil:
     
  24. Legionnaire
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    Full disclosure.
     
  25. Nushif

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    I would be willing to trade off a broken gun, or sell it, but *not* without full disclosure. That's dishonesty.
     
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