Ethical or not? Selling gun with problems

[P5 Guy]

Opps

No I didn't read before voting. I've sold/traded a few unreliable firearms, but I always point out there is a problem to the purchaser.

 

[MUSICALGUNNUT45]

I voted it depends. If someone is interested in a broken or defective firearm, knows its defective and wants to buy it to restore/repair than yeah im fine with that. But if you don't tell someone its defective and you take advantage of them, than no thats horrible, not only did you cheat someone out of their money but you could injure or kill them in many different ways. Guns are dangerous to begin with, don't put people in more danger by lying and selling them a broken one.

 

[browneu]

Disclosure is the key. Be honest and tell the buyer if there are any problems. Sometimes the situation gets a little sticky if a problem for one person is no big deal for another.

However, playing devil's advocate, how many people do you know that traded a problematic automobile for a brand new car? Wouldn't this be the same as trading a problematic firearm for another?

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[Mike1234567]

^^^ Yes.

 

[Psa1m144]

Yes, some people buy broken guns for parts or to fix.... Obviously the defect would be communicated to the buyer multiple times.

 

[Onward Allusion]

friscolatchi
Poll: Ethical or not? Selling gun with problems
I have started a poll that should pique your interests. Would you sell or trade a firearm that you own, knowing that there is a problem, FTF, "Dead Trigger", etc, without first notifying the buyer? The ensuing conversation may be lively.

Selling a gun that has issues without full disclosure can result in tragedy. - e.g defective trigger, bolt, or sear...etc

 

[FROGO207]

Well I would sell something to another BUT a full disclosure of problems would go with the sale as well as an AS IS on the bill of sale. I sold a Dan Wesson 357 that I thought would only be fit for an anchor. The trigger pull was horrendous either single/double action. Told him you get what you get, I consider it junk/parts only! The golden rule is to treat others as you want to be treated. This works for me.

 

[garymc]

Why did you write the poll question without anything about notification and then the first post after the poll question you talk about notification? Is that like selling a gun and then pointing out there's a minor problem with it?

 

[wyocarp]

It is interesting that most responses say no or full disclosure but in reality that isn't what happens. I can't count how many firearms I've taken on trade where I've had a surprise or two after the tranaction.

 

[Inebriated]

If you have a problem with it, list it. At the very least, you won't have an angry person hounding your for money.

 

[Arp32]

Once bought an Ishapore Enfield that failed to eject due to an irregular chamber. Gunsmith said if I kept on shooting it, it would eventually blow up in my face. Instead of selling it, I threw it away (in pieces, over a few weeks). Didn't feel right about selling it.

In retrospect, I should have waited fir one of those gun turn-in programs...

 

[Ala Dan]

No, absolutely not~!

 

[BigN]

I'd sell a defective gun after I disclosed all problems and the person still wanted it. It might be a losing $$$ situation for me but it's worth it to transfer the headaches to someone else.

 

[RevDerb]

Tell the prospective buyer what the issues are and if he/she still wants to proceed, it's OK.

 

[lizziedog1]

What about accuracy problems?

The gun works and functions fine, but it groups resemble shotgun patterns. Would you all disclose this problem?

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Ethical or not: Personal sale of firearm with defect.
o I would not sell/trade defective firearm without a warning of the known problem.
o I would sell/trade defective firearm with the understanding the buyer was going to repair the gun or was buying the gun to salvage for parts.
o In the past fifty years, I have disassembled two defective guns and scrapped the parts with known defects.

 

[WardenWolf]

I vote "Depends". The "Depends" being full disclosure. That said, I'd never sell an outright lemon. I always make every effort to fix problems myself, and am very good at doing so. If I can't fix it, you KNOW there's something majorly wrong.

 

[Mike1234567]

It is interesting that most responses say no or full disclosure but in reality that isn't what happens. I can't count how many firearms I've taken on trade where I've had a surprise or two after the tranaction.

Not to imply that anyone posting here would stoop that low but, man, you've got that right.

 

[AKElroy]

I would not sell with an UNDISCLOSED problem. I recently had a Win 94 posted for sale, and it had an occasional FT Feed issue. I ordered parts to fix, (20%+ mag spring from Wolf), and it funcitoned fine. Took it to the lease after posting the sale, and had another failure to feed. I notified the buyer, and he declined to buy at that point.

Bad Karma to sell broken junk---

 

[LKB3rd]

To be ethical, you need to either fix it before the sale, or inform the buyer, ESPECIALLY if it is a potential safety issue, which I guess (hope?) is obvious.

 

[Fishslayer]

Looking at it from the other side, I WISH somebody would sell me a Mauser P90DA with a busted slide or bulged barrel for $100. I need parts.

With full disclosure, no problem. Safety issue, don't think so. If something happened there would be a lawyer at my door and unless I had something in writing I'm gonna bet that "full disclosure" will have completely slipped the buyer's mind...

 

[Ryanxia]

Notice that the OP specifically said WITHOUT FIRST NOTIFYING THE BUYER.

I see a lot of depends on the poll and assume people are thinking a situation where you'd let the buyer know.

 

[Kiln]

I would sell it but would definately explain the problems to the buyer first so they know what they're getting. When I buy used stuff I hope the seller will do the same for me.

 

[12131]

How can you sleep at night if you're even considering this?

Slimeballs do it all the time.

Personally, if I were to sell a problem gun, I would post what the problem is, and let the prospective buyer decide. To do otherwise would be unethical, imo.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

I would disclose it, otherwise no.

Wish everyone lived by these rules. I've been burned once.