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Ever have a pistol regularly jump carry rotation?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Snowdog, Nov 3, 2020.

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  1. Ernie Bass

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    Lol, sorry Dude, could not disagree with you more and again, stick with what you can do and leave others out of this. Do not pretend to know all of them. You do not.
     
  2. Kleanbore

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    If you insist that ones ability with one's individual firearms is the potential issue in carry rotation, you do not understand the issue at all. We have discussed that,and the underlying considerations.

    Old Dog understands it well, but he personally believes, no doubt with good reason, that his particular firearm variety, his draw techniques, etc adequately mitigate any risks for him. I do not question that.

    Many other members here understand the subject and have agreed with what I have said. Others do vary their carry pistols, within strictly defined limits.

    I have no idea of how much training, and of what kind, you have had. I have no idea how changing carry guns willy nilly might slow or interrupt your immediate reaction to the sudden emergence of a critical incident. I do not question your skills at all,

    What I find issue with is your apparent understanding of the subject, based on the way in which you have expressed your opinion.
     
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  3. Trunk Monkey

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    Tru story bro, you can't make a silk purse out of a Sow's ear
     
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  4. Snowdog

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    I didn't expect this thread to take the turn it did, but I should specify all my firearms that are carried are very similar (in that they are polymer-framed autos without manual safeties).
    Gen 4 G19, Gen 4 G22, Sig 365, M&P40c, M&P 2.0 9mm, Ruger SR40c (this has a safety but it's never engaged) and now a Stoeger STR9c. I don't really shoot one better than another.

    Whichever I feel like carrying that day. Cooler weather, the G22 might get carried more often than the G19. A light-colored tee might steer me towards the smaller P365, so external factors are at play.
     
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  5. JR24

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    Seems fine, really if you don't have wildly different (SAO, DAO, etc) guns or different carry locations I don't think it's as big of a deal as some do, provided you train with ALL of them consitently and constantly (for what it's worth I don't rotate much and when I do, I basically only shoot my carry gun/style weekly).

    Except:

    I have a problem with this. When I carried an SR (9c and 40c at different times) I had the safety disengage often enough in the holster that I would never trust the safety to stay off in the holster and would want to be properly trained to use the safety if needed automatically as part of my shooting grip.
     
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  6. Snowdog

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    Whenever I get home after doing whatever it is I was doing, I always find the safety on my SR40c remains off. For this model or my method of carry (simple kydex IWB strong side) it might be easier for the safety to disengage than engage, though I certainly see your point.

    I say this because at one time my SAR9 was among those in rotation and I found the safety had engaged after a several-hour road trip. I still have the 2 Sarsilmaz SAR9s but don't carry them.

    The majority of the time, I'm carrying the Glock19 or Sig P365, though I'm plenty familiar with all. I suspect the Stoegers might change that ratio a bit.
     
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  7. halfmoonclip

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    My carry choices are a 365, a G42, or a Smith Centennial. All work on the principle of 'draw gun, pull trigger'. No safeties to wipe off, no transition from double to single action.
    When you are scared (redacted), keeping it really simple is the deal.
    I own other guns with different operating systems, but they are range queens.
    Moon
     
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  8. CNobbe

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    I have warm weather and cold weather carry guns. Pocket guns for warm, compacts for cold.
     
  9. johnnylaw53

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    I have change carry weapons many times but never really had a set rotation, other then assignment. Long time ago when I was a narc if i was under making the deals it was always a small weapon, sometimes even a NAA .22lr if I was covering someone else that was under I carried the issued beretta 92 my thinking was if it went bad I needed a full size to help get us out of the situation. Now days in retirement I have settle on the sig p365 after carrying the ruger LC9 S&W 642 and a LC9S in the early years of retirement. Now days it always the sig except when out running/walking and yard work then it is the ruger LCP so that as far as a rotation as I go.
     
  10. NMexJim

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    I will admit to having two carry guns - one very light and small for an everyday, normal life and a huge, large capacity one for the zombie apocalypse!
     
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  11. George P

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    I agree 100%. I know folks who switch between brands AND action types - from a J frame to a 1911 to a Glock, etc. So different, how can one become so proficient that when the need DOES arise, you remember how to draw and react?
     
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  12. Trunk Monkey

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    I do have to admit that I'm really liking my Ruger LC9 since I found out they have 9 round magazines for it. I still only carry it to take out trash though.
     
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  13. JR24

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    Can't say for the J frame*, as I don't like them. But I can go to the range with a Glock, 1911, Sig DA/SA and run a FAST, Bill, Devil, etc from concealment almost identically, cold, on most days.

    That said. When I carry a 1911, I train weekly with a SAO and my HD guns get swapped to SAOs. Same if I'm carrying a Glock.

    I do seem to switch occasionally, not daily but maybe every few months I decide I need something lighter (Glock) or get to missing the sweet SAO trigger (Wilson EDC X9, lightweight 1911).

    I find swapping between 9mm and .45 more detremental to consistent shooting between platforms.

    *I will only very rarely carry a Ruger LCR when it gets really cold and I need to wear my "good" parka. The LCR goes in the hand warmer pocket as a ****/get me time to get my real gun out option. Even so, that's only if I'm planning on being outside for a long time and actually have to fully zip up, instead of buttons for quick access to my real EDC.
     
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  14. Old Dog

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    Same here, substitute P-320 or P-365 for a Glock.

    Yep!
     
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    I'm always on the lookout for fire hydrants.
     
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  16. FFGColorado

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    I don't either. Glock 42 if clothes says nothing bigger, Glock 48 the rest of the time.

    I don't really understand 'carry rotation' of 3-4 very similar handguns..

    ymmv, imho and all that.
     
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  17. Snowdog

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    You see, it often involves pistols that in all honesty you feel like you really don't "need" and wouldn't see the light of day otherwise. For many, it stems from seeing something you want, asking yourself "what would I ever use that for" and concealed carry is the only thing that comes to mind.

    For others, they just like to do it. I fall into all those categories, but the latter is more accurate most of the time.

    I shave with straight razors much of the time and safety razors the rest. I have rotations there too, even though I could live with only one of each. It's something I enjoy; the subtle differences between them give me the warm 'n fuzzies.
     
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  18. Old Dog

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    Well, YEAH! (Refer to my username)
    Variety is the spice of life? Why is this so difficult to understand? If you like guns, know your guns, train with your guns, what is the problem with a carry rotation?

    We've got guys like Mas Ayoob (member here, who use to post every so often), a well-respected authority on use of deadly force AND handguns, a long-time trainer, and pretty darn good competition shooter, who changes his carry guns like he changes his socks. You gonna call him out on that?
     
  19. Trunk Monkey

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    To be fair Mas is an active member of a private forum that I'm a member of and he does change guns frequently but every time he talks about it on that forum he also mentions the reason why he's changing guns and it's never because of random whim.

    It's usually because he's going to a state where he can't take his normal gun because of magazine restrictions or he's doing a class that requires a specific gun or there's a competition specific reason.

    He doesn't wake up and decide to carry his pink Glock because it matches his boxers.

    I don't rotate. I used to be one of those guys who said anybody that did rotate was an idiot but I got older and matured. If rotating works for you have at it. It's your life live it how you want to.
     
  20. FFGColorado

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    No need to get your nighty in a knot. Not ‘calling out’ anybody on anything.
    I have a carry gun that works perfectly for me for any carry situation I can imagine. I have others that I shoot for fun(I shoot the carry gun for fun too)....so I don’t see the need, but if you want to have 7 lined up with days of the week on each....go ahead..

    ya know what ‘YMMV’ means, right?
     
  21. CDW4ME

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    Glock 23 or 32 for carry, anytime, anywhere, everywhere.
     
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  23. jmorris

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    I have not; however, I have bought firearms that I thought would have been better for carry than they turned out to be and also a few pleasant surprises.

    I don’t have a “rotation” but I do often carry different firearms at different times.
     
  24. Hartkopf

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    Those old "you might be a redneck" lines could apply here.

    If you've ever called your wife the name of an old ex, you shouldn't rotate your carry gun.

    If you've ever lost your keys and finally found them in the fridge, you shouldn't rotate your carry gun.

    If you've ever accidentally given out an address you moved away from 15 years ago, you shouldn't rotate your carry gun.

    If you still have trouble remembering how to control the TV remote, you shouldn't rotate your carry gun.


    Basically you should know yourself and to what degree you might become scatterbrained, especially under stress.
     
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  25. Old Dog

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    "Nighty in a knot?" Really? I simply provided my answer to your comment that you did not understand a concept. I have been speaking solely to my own practices and attempted to explain my point of view. I have not tried to tell people what they should or should not do; frankly so long as they are responsibly carrying their chosen firearm, I care not what they do.

    Thank you for sharing.
     
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