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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by harmonic, Nov 5, 2008.

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  1. harmonic

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    I'll post these random thoughts before the thread gets locked.

    We're disturbed by an Obama presidency, but we've had some very bad times before. We made it through.

    I had close friends who lived during the Great Depression. It was hard, but they did ok and made it through.

    I had close friends who fought in World War 2. (My father was in Patton's Third Army.) If you've read history, you know there were many times it looked liked we were going to lose that war. But we made it through.

    I remember when Kennedy got shot. Things looked extremely bad, but we made it through.

    I remember the rioting in the streets re the Vietnam war. America was tearing herself apart. But we survived.

    I remember Watergate and Nixon's resignation. We survived.

    Remember the Carter presidency? Interest was 25%. America was being bullied by Iran. We gave away the Panama Canal. We survived.

    9/11 and everybody is frightened again. We survived.

    Bad times happen but America is a very resilient lady. We improvise. We adapt. We overcome. (Where have I heard that before?)

    You're going to be ok, regardless.

    The best thing we can do now is get busy. Stop spending time worrying about how things "might" be. Develop the habit of writing your Congressman. Regardless of how bad Obama might be, he can't do much without Congress. Let them know how you feel about gun control.

    They believe that for every letter they receive, it represents 17 people who didn't bother to write.

    And the most important thing you can do at this time is to join the NRA. Say what you will, they are the most potent voice we have in Congress.

    God bless you all.
     
  2. Coyote3855

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    Well said. Thank for your wise words.
     
  3. grilledcheese

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    Excellent post. I concur.


    Jeffrey
     
  4. Hk91-762mm

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    And there is no reason this board should ban /lock post like this -!!!!!!!
    We are in deep do doo !
    I worry the gun owneres will not stand and protect our rights --Im late 50s and I have seen This country go down every year since the 60s.
    Where can we go discuss this subject that wont get banned --Locked -or deleated -????????
    PM me !
     
  5. hags

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    Sure, but we've had hard economic times before '73-'74 and '79-'80, some would argue those were worse than today.
    The majority of Americans can't see past the last 6-8 years.

    Not sure how this thread is gun related but I can tell you that not a single distributor I've called this morning has more than a handfull of ARs left in stock and the situation with the 30 mags is not much better.

    Real or perceived, that's not good for our "gun" community. Demand goes up, prices go up and supply goes down, for what?
     
  6. harmonic

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    Join the NRA. I, personally, became complacent and let my membership lapse. I'm going to the Wanamacher show this weekend and, among other things, am going to renew my membership.

    We've got a dangerous man coming into the White House. We can wring our hands or we can get busy. I say "screw 'em!" I'm getting busy.
     
  7. texas chase

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    Thanks

    Good post. Thanks for some positive thinking.
     
  8. Loyalist Dave

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    REMEMBER at least that the Supreme Court made it tougher for the Chief Executive or Congress to mess with the 2nd Amendment. THOUGH not impossible so stay alert!.

    LD
     
  9. Vonderek

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    Nice sentiments but since this is a gunboard I hate to throw cold water on you. Left-wing Democrats to control both houses of Congress and the White House and maybe appoint up to three activist Supreme Court Justices. All beholden to radical special interest groups who put them in power and all committed to a gun-free America.

    No thanks, I won't relax.
     
  10. Gunfighter123

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    It is very hard to stay calm today. As the OP posted --- we will tough thru this. JOIN THE NRA TODAY !!!
     
  11. hso

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    Well said.

    Panic wrecks effective planning and participation. Instead we should recommit to roll up our sleeves and get to work supporting RKBA organizations and working to add to the ranks of shooters. Don't give into defeatist thought. If you're upset, don't let it paralyze you. Use it to get up off the couch and join the folks that want to work.

    Headless chickens flap and run around a lot, but inevitably end up in the stew pot.
     
  12. jcwit

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    Because the "GUN ISSUE" is a political issue is all the more reason for politics to be discussed. However most of the gun boards force us to bury our heads in the sand while our rights disappear. Makes no sense to me, but at least no one gets "offended" this way. There I've said how I feel, flame away if you must, however by now its to late for any "change" in the election. Thank God the NRA stays politically active.
     
  13. harmonic

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    Hear, hear!

    Other than the NRA, which ones are effective?
     
  14. 230RN
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    Ditto on that, and as someone else said, Americans can't seem to remember anything past the last 6 years -- not even how clothing styles keep cycling.

    The sub-threshold incremental attacks on our freedoms and subsequent acceptance of the status quo as "the way things should be" has led us to this point today --where someone posts about how "we made it through," and where Fudd Gun Club members cannot understand that 2A is not about their skeet shooting.

    We didn't "make it through." Anti-firearms attitudes and laws have grown apace since 1934, and indeed since the Sullivan Act in New York in the twenties.

    No.

    We did not "make it through."

    And vonderek is 100% right.

    I'm going to root through my closet now for one of my old wide ties.
     
  15. RKBABob

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    Hey, the sun still rose this morning...
    squirrels were playing in the trees...
    the world didn't end after all!


    Now lets all go about our lives as we normally would...
    supporting the causes we normally would...
    watching the issues we normally would...
    and taking the actions we normally would.

    Enjoy your life, the world will still be here tomorrow.
     
  16. harmonic

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    We still have our guns. After JFK was shot, there was tremendous impetus in Congress to eliminate the private ownership of guns. They succeeded in hindering us, but we got around their draconian restrictions. We've still got our guns.

    Clinton instituted the AWB and we suffered some inconveniences. But we starting writing and joining (the NRA, et al), and we've still got our guns.

    What people fail to realize is that in the lifetime of everybody in America, there has been a constant effort to eliminate the private ownership of firearms. But thanks to the efforts of gun owners with heart, we still have our guns.

    Some point out that local municipalities like Chicago and New York haven't fared well, and bodes ill for all of us. Nonsense. Their laws are local. Not federal.

    We're talking about national laws, and those we can beat. This battle is far from over.
     
  17. harmonic

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    Absolutely not. Let's get mad and then get busy. The best thing we can do is to give $$$$$$$ to organizations that support the 2nd.
     
  18. Justin

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    If most of the people who posted on gun boards were actually interested in effecting change through activism, had anything approaching a well-informed or nuanced political view, or the understanding of the government possessed by the average 8th grader in a civics class, and weren't prone to making idiotic ice-cream-commando "from my cold dead hands" statements, perhaps we'd actually allow political discussions.
     
  19. Ala Dan

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    Looking at the situation thru O'bamas eyes-

    his first Supreme Court appointment could be the leading lady-


    Hillary Clinton

    which would prove too be a dangerous move for
    every gun owner~! From here, she could (and
    most likely would) wreak havoc on the N.R.A.
    :eek:
     
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  20. Justin

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    An "inconvenience" is having to take an alternate route because of road construction.

    Maybe I'm overly tetchy this morning, but possible felony convictions for owning stamped sheet-metal boxes rises above the level of mere "inconvenience."
     
  21. jcwit

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    Well Justin, I guess you've got me there. However when Charlenton Heston said the phrase it gave a very powerful message. And you've got to admit it did band the NRA membership together for one purpose.
     
  22. 230RN
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    Mixed messages, harmonic.

    Thread title "Everybody relax."

    Then:
    Yes, get mad. Yes, join RKBA organizations. But don't relax.
     
  23. J23

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    A big PLUS ONE +1 for 230 RN.
     
  24. alex9328

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    I only forsee disturbing times ahead, because our youth are not taught the American System of private rights and Liberty.

    You see it everday in the news of some citizen losing his or her property for the greater good and the courts not slamming the governing bodies that passes laws that take away heritage and inheritence. Cities and Counties taxing you out of your home.

    People requesting a fair wage, Never defining a fair wage. I work everday when I feel my boss is not paying me what I think I am worth I am gone. I am free to make that choice, Not some Union forcing someone to pay me. I agree that some regulation are needed, but over regulation of an Industry or individual hinders freedom.

    If person thinks that goverment will solve your problems, all it will do is inslave you. The days ahead are dark and I do not believe the voters will be able to vote these crooks out and the damage they will cause will only further take our country towards are death of Freedom. The Polictial Class has sold America out for their own greed.

    Respectfully, Alejandro Longoria
     
  25. lordgroom

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    I for one am committed to writing my representatives to share my opinions, despite the fact that I live in a state that is very liberal and anti-gun. I will make my voice heard. I am a member of the NRA and will renew when it is up. Though there is a discount offered to members of this site I do not plan to use the discount... I plan to pay the full membership price of the NRA so as not to short change their efforts. This is the least I can do. I know I can donate too if it falls within my budget.

    I think we need to approach this in a relaxed manner because an overly dramatic response is not always the most productive response. While I may relax my anxiety, I do not plan to relax my efforts.
     
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