Everyone knows a guy like this!

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David E

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Do you have a buddy that owns guns? Sometimes, you discuss what gun/caliber is best for this or that and he'll tell you (over and over) about "the shot" he made, or how great a shot in general he is. He considers himself to be a "serious" shooter/gunowner.

He seems to have a solid knowledge base, so you rarely find a need to disagree with him. You find his posts thoughtful and convincing. He's so thorough, it's as if he just completed online research before posting.

He owns a pristine Dillon, backed by lots of components neatly stacked on the shelves. Curiously, you see only a box or two of loaded ammo, and that's factory loaded Winchester.....

He has advice on all things "gun" and may even own the model you're curious about. In fact, it's his defense gun. When he finally shows it to you, you find yourself looking down the muzzle a couple times until he hands it to you. Immediately, you check and clear it. Empty chamber, but loaded magazine..... :scrutiny:

As you look at it, you notice how clean it is. In fact, it hardly shows any wear marks at all. It even looks.......... unfired .....

Suddenly, it dawns on you that you've never seen him shoot. All the tales of great shots come into question, so you suggest (yet again) that you go to the range later that week so you can learn a few things from him. (hoping he'll take the bait) He's busy, of course, as the range is 40 minutes away and costs $12.50 for all day access. You'll pay the fees, per your standing offer, but there's that 40 minute drive thing...

You ask, "Don't you want to keep your skills up?" He predictably replies: "Hell, I know I'm good enough to cut a man in half and that's good enough for me."

As usual, you're disappointed, but it wasn't unexpected. You sigh a little bit as you hand back his Browning Hi Power with the slide locked back, magazine out. You're not terribly surprised as he fumbles with the mag catch first, then the thumb safety before chancing upon the slide catch to drop the slide hard on an empty chamber. He tries to put the magazine in backwards at first, but corrects it quickly and seats it home. "There!" he says triumphantly, "Now I'm good to go!"

I know some guys like that. Do YOU know guys like that?


















Are YOU a guy like that?
 
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I don't know anyone quite like that, but close.

I know guys who buy guns, never really clean them initially, never really make an effort to shoot them, and they never ever try to disassemble them. They'll just buy a Moss500 and load it up and slide it under the bed, "for home defense". :banghead:
I know guys who buy a hunting rifle, mount a scope on it, and do a half-@$$ job of sighting it in, and when they finally get one round to land within half a foot of the point of aim, they're satisfied and they put the gun away for the long wait until hunting season.:banghead:
 
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Nope, I don't really know any per se gun collectors (where the thrill of collecting outweighs the thrill of use). Most people I know that own guns are first and foremost shooters/hunters. Not that there is anything wrong with a collector's mindset.
 
I had the opportunity to take the guy who knew he "could cut a man in half" 10 years after he made that statement.

He couldn't figure out how to work his own gun.
 
Collectors are one thing, they don't tell you how great a shot they are, etc.
 
My wife works with a woman who, with her husband, bought a 9mm handgun to take camping with them. They bought the gun a year or so ago and have taken it camping a few times, but neither one of them has actually fired the gun.

My wife thinks she has the woman talked into buying her husband CCW training for Christmas.
 
I don't think I've ever had one of those know it alls that shot on my range that I wasn't concerned they were going to miss the whole berm.
 
David E said:
.....Do YOU know guys like that?

You forgot to add their source of knowledge came from their experience as a Navy Seal, Sniper, and master kungfoo knife thrower.....
 
My dad drives me crazy!! He owns plenty of guns in various calibers and denominations (handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc), but when I get him to the range to shoot, he only brings his .22 revolver and .22 rifle. He buys ammo for every gun he buys, but never shoots a single one of them. He's been like this for years and years. He's now 82 yrs old, and is starting to give his guns to us kids. I never look a gift horse in the mouth, but it drives me crazy every time he goes and buys another gun. He recently bought a .410 pump and a .22 rifle. I'm sure he'll never shoot either one. The other thing that kills me is he thinks (and always has) the .22 LR is the ultimate in home defense. At this point I totally give up trying to convince him otherwise. :banghead:
 
I worked with a guy kinda like that in college. He said that he worked for his familys logging buysiness in his downtime. Said that he had a chainsaw in one hand and kept an SKS slung across his back in case he ran across that 'monster buck' while clear cut logging in the Appalachian mountains. I remember he used to wear his Realtree camo to our workstudy alot.
 
No, I don't think I do. The gun guys I know may not shoot a lot, but they know how to shoot.
 
I definitely own more guns that I shoot. I'll fire my carry gun maybe 50-100rds every other month or so. I have some others that I like to shoot every time I go to the range. It's a matter of logistics for me more than anything. The nearest range that I can shoot a centerfire rifle at is close to an hour away, closed a good portion of the year, and requires me to shoot through concrete tubes from benches that are simply not made for me, requiring an awkward half sitting half standing position to fire my rifle. Firing offhand is an even bigger PITA. The closest handgun range to me requires that I purchase my ammo from them, which is probably 25% more expensive than what I can buy at Wal-Mart or somewhere else on top of a range fee. For me to go there and shoot 100 rounds of 9mm is a 65 dollar event. As a result, I do still have 2 handguns and a shotgun that have never been shot. Now mind you, none of them are ever used for a carry gun, except for one which I will occasionally keep in my truck as a backup to my carry gun. That particular gun was bought used from a police dept. so I have faith enough in it for a backup that it'll fire when I need it to.

All that being said, I don't claim to be the greatest shot in the world, but a deer sized target within range of any of my shotguns had best be thinking small if I shoot at it. If it's within 150 yards of my muzzleloader or 250 yards of any of my hunting rifles, same deal. I could probably push the rifles further, but I'm not blessed like some people are on this board with 1000 yard fields in my back yard. So I make due with what I've got and take advantage of shooting opportunities when the place and ammo arises.

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I don't know anyone like that. Most of my shooting companions, and friends who shoot, are precisely that: shooters.

Some are very good and some are not so very good, but we're all trying to improve.
 
Owning a few guns and being able to use them effectively is part of the lifestyle here. I happen to own a few more than most, but my 'users' are in good mechanical shape but all scratched up. People like you mention probably run in different circles than I do, I don't even own a cowboy hat, nor do I know how many foot pounds of energy it take to shoot any particular animal. I believe they are just like us and will die shortly after losing their lung and heart function. ;)
 
Nope. All my friends actually SHOOT. And some of them are DAMN good. I think we all manage to never get into a mano y mano situation, so that we never have to live down actually being inferior to the other. We shoot together, but never push the "I'm better than you" thing. Usually, if one misses the target, it make him mad; buckles down, and doesn't miss the next time. Keeps the edge going for all of us. We poke a little fun, but not enough to get into a pissn match.
 
I have never met a braggart in all my years of shooting. Plenty of us are gun guys who have periods of life that we don't get to the range. I don't go to the range just to shoot. I'm shooting video, or taking people shooting who ask me to teach them to shoot. I don't feel that gun owners are braggarts by nature.
 
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