Evil Rifle-building parties?

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Never heard of having a party for it, but according to this article, you would think that people were conducting evil illegal activity, conspiring to start an uprising. Just MSNBC stirring up more anti-gun garbage.

Rifle-building parties mix burgers and beer with a chance to sidestep gun laws by building your own weapon.


What’s a party without some brewskies, a few burgers on the grill and a group of buddies just kicking back and assembling some of the world’s deadliest assault weapons from make-shift parts?

That’s the premise of so-called rifle "build parties" that are spawning across the U.S. and in California in particular, where the gun laws are considered to be among the country’s most restrictive.
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http://news.msn.com/us/gun-lovers-gather-for-build-your-own-rifle-parties?stay=1
 
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LOL, well, that's a crazy collection of inappropriate terms. "Sidestep?" "Makeshift?" "World's Deadliest Assault Weapons?"

Hi-larious.
 
Oh, and how 'bout how this was a big deal like 8 or 9 years ago when the AK parts kits were cheap and easy? You don't really need to do a build party to put together an AR.
 
I thought it was interesting how they made it sound so easy to build an AK. AK's are far more difficult to build than an AR. AK's require not so everyday tools unlike an AR.
 
I opened the thread expecting an invitation!!

Talk about disappointing. They could write a whole thesaurus of buzz words that have no real meaning and deliberately skew the truth.

"The thought is just horrific," said Elliot Fineman, CEO of the National Gun Victims Action Council in Chicago. "You can’t allow people to walk around with deadly weapons and not expect to have the statistics that we have, which is the highest level of gun homicide and gun-related crime in the developed countries."
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Ummm....
 
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In this context, "Build" and "Assemble" are not synonymous...

I commend anyone who can build an AR upper and lower from scratch...can't do that with a shovel!
 
In this context, "Build" and "Assemble" are not synonymous...
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by definition, they're not. But I do believe construction workers build buildings, when they're actually just assembling pre-made parts.
 
Uh, you aren't in construction, are you? LOL!

Anyway, I don't see how this distinction really matters. You can "assemble" an AK out of a pre-made receiver or by bending a pre-made flat, or by pounding a piece of steel into a thin sheet and cutting it out yourself, or by starting with some iron ore and a bit of coal...

Whatver, who cares? Build, assemble, put together, cobble, craft ... it's all good.
 
Uh, you aren't in construction, are you? LOL!
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Ha! There are......some pre-made parts.

I think the real danger here is the (possibly deliberate) confusion of those who aren't very knowledgeable about the process. While we know that it's fairly uncommon for someone to bend their Kalashnikov receiver out of sheet metal or forge (or even finish) their AR receiver, full-auto versions are still illegal, and the guys making these almost exclusively are upstanding citizens who could buy the gun from an FFL if they wanted, the story makes it out that gangbangers are throwin back 40s and punching out machine guns for their next drive by. Kinda like all those hoodlums who are walking around with those S&W 500s they warned us about.
 
Sure, that is absolutely what they're doing. Look at these (sketchy? questionable? untrustworthy?) guys SKIRTING the law (because why? what they're doing is illegal?) to make DANGEROUS and DEADLY ASSAULT WEAPONS (illegal, right? surely! Everyone knows machine guns are illegal!!!).

It's just a rotten lot of insinuation and fear-mongering. They even got quotes from a bunch of folks who almost certainly gave them EXACTLY the true story, but they chose to print what they wanted to print.
 
by definition, they're not.
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build
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verb
1.
construct (something, typically something large) by putting parts or material together over a period of time.
"the factory was built in 1936"
synonyms: construct, erect, put up, assemble; More
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from http://www.google.com/#fp=5681937abd98690f&q=build+definition

Semantics, I know...

Anyway, I don't see how this distinction really matters.
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You might if you try to build an AK without an AK parts kit.... My point being that assembling pieces you bought is a far cry from actually fabricating those pieces yourself from bar stock or billet, etc.
 
MSN. Wish I could say I am surprised. They could call a single shot .22 a "deadly assault rifle" and it would have people fooled.
 
My point being that assembling pieces you bought is a far cry from actually fabricating those pieces yourself from bar stock or billet, etc.
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Or if you're one of those dorks who claims to be "building" a rifle when they didn't refine the ore and smelt the steel themselves! :rolleyes:

Still, the title didn't say "fabricate" ... and what if it had?
 
molehill ---> mountain


the important part is that after all that anti-gun furor, we basically escaped with minimal new state restrictions and no fed restrictions. but we need to continue educating people to counteract MSN's intentionally misleading propaganda
 
the real danger here is the (possibly deliberate) confusion of those who aren't very knowledgeable about the process
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That is exactly the focus of many of the antis, to put out misleading info, and sometimes outright lies, that makes guns sound evil, easy to get/make illegally and sway voters who don't know any better. And then sometimes they are just ignorant themselves.

Either way, they say things like this to sway voters.

the important part is that after all that anti-gun furor, we basically escaped with minimal new state restrictions and no fed restrictions. but we need to continue educating people to counteract MSN's intentionally misleading propaganda
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Exactly.
 
Hmmm, maybe I could dig out my uncle's notebooks, find a bunch of barrel blanks and have MSN advertise a symposium on building Gatling guns. Say $200 a head plus price of materials. Point out the system is in use on attack helicopters, that should get me nationwide coverage.

After all, if these people insist on being idiots I might as well make some money of them.
 
I'm confused, some part of the gun still has to be serialized right? Like the lower on a AR?
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No. Or not always.

If you buy a bunch of parts, including a receiver, and assemble them, the receiver is going to be the serialized part and you'll have to buy it through a dealer.

If you buy a parts kit, but create your own receiver (like bending up an AK receiver from a flat) you do NOT need to put a serial number on it.

(The ATF would like you to add one if you ever sell it, but even then it isn't required by law. When they suggest that you "should" they point to the NFA Title II requirements. A cute sleight of hand there.)
 
^ Sam beat me to it.
As a long time homebuilder, I think I have put a serial on ONCE. Usually no.
If those build parties scare them, they should have seen our Browning 1919 build parties. The last one I attended we ended up with about 26 1919 belt feds and a couple of Ma-Dueces put together in one weekend.
 
Kinda gives new meaning to the "Tupperware Party" doesn't it?! :D

Geno
 
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