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Example of Brady Campain deception

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Zen21Tao, Mar 4, 2006.

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  1. Zen21Tao

    Zen21Tao Member

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    For a laugh I was looking around the Brady campain where I wound this article:

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=728

    After reading this story I looked up an actual news report on the incident found this.
    http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_4472223,00.html

    It turns out that this boy was killed when rival gang member were blasting away at each other during a turf war. This is hardly a case of an innocent civilian "standing his ground" defending himself. I find it pathetic that Antis have to be so deceptive to try and convience others that law abiding citizens being armed is a danger to society. They tried to convience Floridians that our Castle Doctrine would result in OK Corall type shootouts. Well, that hasn't happened yet.
     
  2. Warren

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    I'm shocked that the upstanding citizens at The Brady Campaign, who are just looking out for all of us, would stoop to that level.
     
  3. migoi

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    I did not know...

    that the NRA had been granted the ability to create new laws:

    I was under the impression that the state legislatures were the ones that did that.

    migoi
     
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    Same thing happened to me last week, when talking to the "issues contact" for an Illinois state representative about the proposed AWB in Illinois.

    Me) Isn't this just another version of the expired federal AWB that had no real impact on crime?
    IC) You can't say there was no impact because the crime rate went down during those ten years.

    Me) Then how do you explain the fact that the crime rate has continued to go down in the 18 months since it's sunset?
    IC) Well I didn't mean that was the only reason for the decline.

    That is not exactly word for word but it the theme of the conversation. Anyone who doesn't ask the second question will come away thinking the AWB caused the decrease in crime. Jim.
     
  5. Zen21Tao

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    I live in Florida and remember when the Castle doctrine extension was passed. All it did was eliminate the "duty to retreat" requirement in public places. However the Brady folks and VPC came to Florida airports as well as other airports with Florida detinations and handed out pamphlet telling tourists they need to be especially carefull and not get into any arguments with locals because locals in Florida can now gun them down in the street if they give the local any reason to feel "threatened." This included a rediculous list of "things to do around locals" that included things like keep hand were they can be seen, move slow, never make eye contact, etc.

    sctman800:
    I guess these leftests have never heard of the difference between Causation and Correlation. Just becasue two things occur together doesn't mean the one caused the other's occurance. Ask that person, "So if I drink a cup of coffee and it starts to rain did my coffee cause it to rain"?
     
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    >I guess these leftests have never heard of the
    > difference between Causation and Correlation.
    > Just becasue two things occur together doesn't
    > mean the one caused the other's occurance.

    The steady decline in violent crime also started in 1991, several years BEFORE the AWB and the Brady Bill passed. There was no detectable change in the rate of decrease when the new laws took affect. It's amazing that these people, who evidently believe so strongly in their cause, resort to such gross distortions when trying to make their case.
    Marty
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    Wow! Free CCW badges, too?
     
  8. Henry Bowman

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    Now ya know.:rolleyes:
     
  9. ABTOMAT

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    HCI (I refuse to use the new name) put paid ads in newspapers about the FL law. Many US papers (including mine, I saw one), and at least when I read about it they were planning on doing the same in Europe and Asia.

    The whole nine years--locals will kill you if they're nervous or threatened, avoid all contact with people in public places, a vacation in Florida would be safer spent in Sudan, etc. Gimme a break.
     
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    I would have thought that her Cancer would have killed her by now.....wonder how she justifies smoking round her hubby...threatening HIS life with her killer cigarettes......hmmmmm
     
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    That is absolute crap. The Arizona Daily Star is know as "The Red Star" by those around Tucson, AZ. There are two Tucson Papers, the Citizen (more conservative) and the Star (left wing commie trash). I wonder how much Brady paid for that article?
     
  12. Vermont Guy

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    There is a basic principle underlying this post. Stuff is often misquoted. This happens so often it is probably a method taught in journalism school.

    You have to go back to the original source to see it.

    The notorious 43 to 1 is an example. One has to go back to the original paper to see that defense uses are way undercounted for example. And Miller is often misquoted to limit RKBA to the National Guard.

    I once read and article about the 13 children killed by guns in St. Louis during the previous year. Thanks to the magic of the internet I was able to go back and read the stories of each one of those deaths. What a collection of tragedies. None of which would have been affected by gun control short of making possession a capital crime. And worst of all, two young children that were specifically mentioned in the article, were drowned, not shot. And the event was one where the mother could have defended them and herself if she had been prepared.

    So, go back to the source and don't trust quotes.
     
  13. Justin

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    And a decoder ring! What a deal, eh?
     
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    Cool, I have always wanted a decoder ring. :)
     
  15. progunner1957

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    It's not about saving lives

    Cigarette smoking is the cause of 440,000 deaths EACH YEAR in the United States alone - more than 10X the bogus, inflated 30,000 deaths HCI claims are caused by guns.

    My question is - WHY ARE THEY NOT CRUSADING TO BAN CIGARETTES INSTEAD???? Because banning guns is not about saving lives, period.
     
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