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"Exotic" Shotgun ammunition

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Falcontech, Oct 6, 2006.

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  1. Jack2427

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    +++What Dfaris said about flechette rounds-and most other exoctic rounds also. There is a reason that the pros do not use any of them(with the exception of the door breaching round).
    That reason is NOT the Geneva Convention, which does not address weapons at all. Nor does NATO. Many people do not realize that the prohibition of certain ammunition is not specified as ammunition of a specific type, but in the Hague Accords(early 20th century), ammunition that creates or is designed to produce unduly grevious wounds was prohibited. The ammo was not specified, but in WWI the Germans(the same guys who used mustard gas) were upset that the shotguns used by our guys in the trenches were so effective, they called them a violation of the Hague Accords, and they threatened to execute any Doughboy captured with a shotgun or shotgun ammo. The threat went away after we stated we would respond by executing a similiar number of German POWs selected at random.
    This is all rather silly in this day and age when we use naplam, and other really unpleasant stuff. I would rather take a HP round any day them get doused with naplam, trust me, I have seen it. During WWII ther Russians used HP or expanding rounds for snipers, and some other uses. In fact the Germans would use captured Russian sniper weapons so they could use the ammo in return.
    Today, many of our special operations units use HP or expanding ammo, and I know for a fact that many of our snipers will use it when they can get enough to sight in with.
    In a number of overseas LE/security contarcts we used premium expanding ammo whenever we could get it. Of course if it was a US Government contract they told us we had to use military issue, a policy that was honored more in the breach than the observance, particularly in Bosnia and Kosovo where the opposition snipers really knew how to shoot.
    In any case, stick with what has been proven to work, buck and slugs.
     
  2. geim druth

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    How do you clean cayenne pepper out of your barrel?
     
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    "How do you clean cayenne pepper out of your barrel?"

    The best technique is to run a patch with a light Italian dressing with a touch of Parmesan cheese down the bore, then fire the gun into a head of iceberg lettuce.
     
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    Try the veal, dfarriswheel will be here all week...

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    Steve,

    Around here, it's 00 buck. Usually one man per patrol carries one...but I understand it's just to use on dogs, if they charge. (Though some genius layed down two bursts from a SAW two weeks ago. Deadly dogs, the locals are. :rolleyes: )

    John
     
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    please feel free to check out this video on exotic and specialty ammo.
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  8. Hungry Seagull

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    Dont need exotic ammo.

    Buck and Ball is about as good as it gets.

    The key is application of energy to the target or many small holes into a target so that target is kaput yes?

    Nothing is worse than to fire a ineffective round, have BG laugh at you and take you out.
     
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    Dragons Breath is a joke and a camera trick, you can make it look just like the picture. Just adjust your camera so that the shutter stays open long enough to catch the whole shot.;)
     
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