Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Exploding bullets

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by fireman, Sep 26, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. fireman

    fireman Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2008
    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Montrose, CO.
    Years ago I had a room mate that would re-load 357 bullets with a Lee Loader.
    He would ream out a hollow point just enough to fit a primer.
    It would pop the primer on impact.
    Have any of you guys heard of this?
    Fireman
     
  2. LubeckTech

    LubeckTech Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    870
    Location:
    Parkersburg, WV
    I've never heard of that trick but there used to be and probably still are commercially loaded amma known as exploders that exploded on impact. I remember these from the early 1980s when they sold for about one dollar a round.
     
  3. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    46,786
    Location:
    Alabama
    I used to make exploding pellets for my pellet gun when I was a wee lad. Lots of fun, but lots of work.
     
  4. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    22,349
    The Exploder bullets of the 1970s were thought to be a hollowpoint capped with a primer, backed by a piece of shot to hit the anvil upon impact to be certain of igniting it, then a little fast burning powder. I only ever saw one fired and that into a log. All that was visible was a wisp of smoke coming out of the caliber sized hole in the wood.
     
  5. jaholder1971

    jaholder1971 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2007
    Messages:
    1,302
    Location:
    thehighroad.us
    A very controversial method of getting instant expansion and limited penetration.
     
  6. MMCSRET

    MMCSRET Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    Messages:
    2,971
    Location:
    North Central Montana, across the Wide Missouri
    I have a box of "Exploders". 38 Special, doesn't say what weight the bullet is. box holds 12 rounds, 2 have been fired. Distributed by Bingham LTD., Atlanta GA. 30341.
    Super Vel Head stamp. I've had them since 1978 or so, got them in a trade. Price stamped $9.00 for 12 rounds. Big money in the 70's.
     
  7. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    59,082
    Location:
    Eastern KS
    At one time I had a 45-70 hollow-point bullet mold that cast a 475 grain bullet with a very deep HP cavity. A LG rifle primer would press fit perfectly in the nose.

    I tried filling the cavity with Bullseye pistol powder, as well as FFFFG black powder.

    The BP gave a satisfying puff of white smoke, but other then that, there was no measurable differance in expansion at all in moist dirt. That bullet would mushroom perfectly no matter what you put in it, or not.

    I am quite sure my 45-70 HP held a much larger amount of powder then anything you could possibly put in a pistol bullet.

    I think "exploding" is too strong a term!

    Perhaps if I had filled the cavity with C4 or something, maybe?

    rc
     
  8. armoredman

    armoredman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2003
    Messages:
    16,439
    Location:
    proud to be in AZ
    Tradename in AZ was Devastators, had 10 in 9mm when I was young and stupid.
     
  9. capttom

    capttom Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    317
    I had a "friend" who swore a primer in a hollow point worked, but he was unreliable in those sort of things. I never knew it to work. The same with a drop of mercury in the cavity. Isn't that what the gunsmith loaded in The Day of the Jackal in, what, a .22 magnum?
     
  10. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
    Shot Gun Primer would be better...or, a high-power, special-type 'Blank' .22 Shell of the type used for 'Powder Actuated Nailers' that Shot Hardened Bolts or Nails into Steel or concrete in Construction.


    Empty 'live' .22 Case filled with old time Photographer's 'Flash Powder'...


    Any of these fitted in a modified 'Hollow Point', with an Anvil...


    Never tried it...but, I'd imagine it'd work very well.
     
  11. KyJim

    KyJim Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2007
    Messages:
    424
    Location:
    Kentucky
    You're right about the drop of mercury but I don't recall the caliber of the gun. I always thought I would like a gun like that one -- disassembles into a crutch.
     
  12. earplug

    earplug Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,695
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    I tried it

    Years ago I did this with a 45 ACP.
    I shot into a lead plate about six inches round and 3/4 inch thick. I never saw a difference the impact area.
    I even added a bit of bullseye in the nose cavity.
     
  13. shotgunjoel

    shotgunjoel Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,572
    Location:
    illinois
    Wasn't Reagan shot with "exploding" 22 ammo?
     
  14. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
    (Re: 'Reagan') Seems I remember hearing that...dunno...it was a medium-barrel-length .22 Revolver though, I think...
     
  15. Gary K

    Gary K Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2009
    Messages:
    22
    (Re 2: Reagan) From Wikipedia (trust if you wish): The pistol Hinckley used "had been loaded with six "Devastator"-brand .22LR cartridges, which contained small lead azide explosive charges designed to explode on contact. The rounds were not manufactured in the U.S.; any bullet which contained actual explosives would have been classified as an illegal explosive device under U.S. federal law at the time that Hinckley purchased them. All six bullets failed to explode."
     
  16. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
  17. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    May 22, 2003
    Messages:
    18,550
    Location:
    Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts
    I tersted a few of the .38s back in the day from a 4-inch Model 10. Properly prepared ballistic gelatin was the medium, laced with dowel rods to simulate ribs. The ones that didn't pop didn't expand at all...even when they hit the dowel rods. The few that did expand didn't expand any better than standard 110-grain hollowpoint Super Vels and Speer's 110-grain JHP loaded to Super Vel speeds.

    MMCSRET...The .38 Devastator rounds were 110-grain JHPs.
     
  18. Gary K

    Gary K Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2009
    Messages:
    22
    Seeing the video over again brings back a lot. Definitely shows how lethal a .22 can be, even if the exploding rounds didn't work.

    The comment on the video about not wearing body armor that day is very telling. A lot of lessons to remember.
     
  19. Randy1911

    Randy1911 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Messages:
    914
    Location:
    Arkansas
    I had a friend in the early 80's that had a box of 20 - 44 JHP that were labeled "exploding tip"( they were just the slug). He was too scared to load any of them so we never found out if they worked. A cop friend of his gave them to him. Can't remember the name.
     
  20. pbearperry

    pbearperry Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    864
    Location:
    The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts
    It has been my experience that gimmick bullets only work in movies out of Hollywood.
     
  21. Lee Roder

    Lee Roder Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Messages:
    510
    Location:
    AZ
  22. tactikel

    tactikel Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,002
    Location:
    Northeastern Illinois
    The tip of a .58 cal Minie ball can be drilled with a .25" bit and a .22 blank shell could be epoxied in the cavity, it would explode on impact (as related in the Dixie Gun Works catalog circa 1968). This load mimicked a load developed during the Civil War- and what prompted the formation of the Geneva Convention, to stop the horrific wounds these rounds produced. It sure made war more civilized huh? :fire:
     
  23. LSCurrier

    LSCurrier Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2005
    Messages:
    271
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    The only exploding bullets that I remember were in either a:


    James Bond movie

    or

    Matt Helm movie


    don't remember which.

    Luke
     
  24. Kindrox

    Kindrox Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    703
    I did that as a kid with a .45. Recovered bullets showed the black remnants of the primer poping, but with the report of the .45 of course you did not hear the bullet pop. The bullet did not explode either, the hollow points pretty much just expanded like they would have anyway. Sometimes the primer was still stuck in the bullet lead, sometimes not.

    My take away was the primer trick didn't do anything usefull/fun.

    I did that too, sealing the mercury into the HP (I reamed out a little deeper cavity). This one seemed to work a little better than the primers, the hollow point expanded into a very nice mushroom. The downside was after a while the mercury absorbed into the lead, so they didn't store well.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page