Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by XavierBreath, Feb 10, 2007.
That's a heck of a thing. Any numbers on it anywhere? Black powder cartridge I expect? Same as a Martini?
One shot, one kill.
Only on the left side, a small 30.
I want one.
start of the blog story. Here are a few more pics.
I have not yet slugged it to determine the caliber. The action is tight, but that might be from the goat dung used as lubricant.
I paid $125. I figure I'll get that much enjoyment from it.
I have a pistol that is almost identical, except that the markings are circles ("o") instead of "V"; apparently they used whatever stamp they could get hold of. Mine also has no other marks. The caliber is .303 British; FWIW, I have fired it with a light load. It works.
If you have the time and inclination, I would love to see a few photos of your's.
Nor could they prove it was made after 1895, which I doubt anyway.
Odds are good that the federales don't even consider that to be a firearm.
Are you talking 70 bucks US in Afghanistan?
FWIW, after reading this page and boning up on Martini-Henrys, I am pretty dadgummed certain this one was forged at the Kyber Pass, not converted from a rifle. My primary cause for this conclusion is the lack of a sling swivel in the trigger guard, or a hole for it.
Even if "converted from rifle", this was a KP piece, which doesn't necessarily mean it would be set up identically to British Martinis.
I wonder what they would think about the name it they knew it came with an olive floating in it?
Martini-Henry Rifle website.
I have little doubt that the M-H pistols under discussion here were not intended for use on tigers. For one thing, they were made and used in the mountains, not in tiger country. They were probably made so the natives could carry a powerful pistol concealed when anyone carrying a rifle would have been arrested by the [British] authorities.
FWIW, a couple of pics of mine, below.
I would LOVE to find one of those somewhere, especially at that price.
www.gunboards.com They'll probably get a kick out of it and might be able to provide some info. There's a sticky on "Kyber Pass" rifles there.
The second picture shows the markings. The "PIKINGHAM & LOND" mark is actually pretty well done, but I guarantee neither it nor the Webley trademark is authentic.
I have one too
I have pretty much an exact same handgun. There are some very small differences, but it's basically the same. Mine is stamped with 8's. Here's what I know about it: It was purchased in Vancouver, BC in 1970 from Lever Arms Service. Lever stated that it is a .303 calibre, one shot with a 140 mm barrel. I know this because it's typed out on an RCMP Restricted Weapon Registration Certificate. It is classified as a Martini-Enfield, but a few years ago I took it to the RCMP & they sent photos back to a firearm technician who works for the Canadian Firearm Registry. He stated: "The firearm subject is of the Martini-Henry family, the pronounced shoulder at the back of the receiver/frame denote a Martini-Henry IV model originally chambered for 577/450 Martini-Henry caliber. If your handgun is chambered for such caliber it qualifies under the Antique regulation therefore registration is not required in Canada."
I like that...very cool! If you ever need a "pistol-sitter" let me know.
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