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Extreme shock 12ga mystery ammo

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by walking arsenal, Feb 26, 2005.

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  1. Okiecruffler

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    Well, heck, if G&A says it, it must be true. They would never give something a good review just to get advertising bucks.
    But still,the fact remains, even if it works there is the fact that many of us will not rely on a round that we have not run thru our guns hundreds of times personally. Call me crazy (why not, the wife does) but I don't rely on the manufacture's claims of any bullet. I don't do it for a deer round, I don't do it for a squirrel round, why in the heck would I do it for a round that i was staking some necks that I'm fond of (my own for instance) on?
    The price of these eliminates the possiblity of reliablity testing and practice with them. At least for me, I'm sure some of you fellas can afford it.
    And lastly there's the fact that I still say, HORSEFEATHERS.

    If I was to make an off colour joke about John Brownings private parts do you think this thread would finally get locked down?
     
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  2. Vonderek

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    Deleted because it's a political post
     
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    Sorry G&A magazine has no credibility. That article is one big paid advertisement.
     
  4. Wopasaurus

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    I don't think I've ever read a bad review and Guns and Ammo.

    The way extreme shock sounds... the tungstenytrilliumagamaziate compound is actually a homing round. When you shoot it out of your shotgun, it automatically detects freedom-haters, and targets them for termination.

    Think Roget Rabbit.
     
  5. Rupestris

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    I'm just gonna stop reading your posts John. I think the coffee comming out of my nose is starting to damage my sinuses :D.
     
  6. Eric-WA

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    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm

    The above link is The Box O' Truth's testing of a couple Extreme Shock products. Having seen the results and that these 40 rounds of 9mm they tested set them back $74 I think I'll stick with my Federal hollow points for the handgun. And for shotgun I'll stick with 00-buck in the shotgun.

    EDIT: Sorry, I just saw someone already posted this link in the thread.
     
  7. Gunnerpalace

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    First,

    Now, to Extreme Shock, fire your advertising people, NOW! and call the man (Oleg Volk). (< Andy Griffith joke)

    Second, Why don't we just use tests on dead pigs I mean while that is graphic I still think shooting Jello does not compare to a human, now you may continue with this thread necrosy.
     
  8. Okiecruffler

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    Good thing I didn't post the joke then.;)
     
  9. Z-Michigan

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    What the OP found is an Extremely large amount of the very heavy Schlock that they carefully load in each round.

    (Sorry, I can't beat CareBear's answer)
     
  10. Hawk

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    Not hardly. It will give the critics wings.

    I made it to the end of the article and found this:
    That's about as negative as a G&A article can get. Let's translate:

    Of course, I'd concede that if my livlihood depended on such "translations" I'd starve by next Thursday. Nevertheless, that article is far from a ringing endorsement.



    If off-color JMB jokes don't get the job done I'm prepared to start discussing religion, politics, personal hygiene, WalMart, Chinese imports and Zombies - all in the same paragraph if it'll help.
     
  11. RyanM

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    Well, who doesn't hate those Chinese-made, Scientologist, Green party zombies with poor personal hygiene, that Wal-Mart recently started selling?

    Seriously, though. 12" to 18" acceptable, 13" to 15" optimum. End of story.
     
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    Huh. My results with Federal American Eagle 50 grain .223 in water some years ago were similar. I paid less than $5/20.

    You know, when I was reading the hype, certain words stuck out at me.
    Wait a minute... and then, there it was.
    Mullins. Jeff Mullins told me, way back around the '96 Olympics or so, that he was working on a composite round that would heal the dead, raise the sick, and turn wine into water.

    I can't speak for that, but I do know that I bought several hundred rounds of .40 155 grain XTP from Mullins back in the day. They didn't load it quite as hot as I wanted (it was doing mid-high 1100s, IIRC), but it was pretty good stuff.

    And that's all I have to say about that.

    John
     
  14. WildCard_Rob

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    I believe the RPNO stood for "Rip a Padlock a New One" It is indeed a door breaching round sold mainly to Law Enforcement
     
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    For the love of G-d, would someone PLEASE shoot this thread with an Extreme Shock(tm) round to finally put it down for good?

    :banghead:
     
  16. JImbothefiveth

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    Apparently the rules of physics don't apply to EXTREME SHOCK.

    What's with all the threads on this today?

    I think it's some sort of metal with nylon and a bunch of hype. I wouldn't use it for defense, and wouldn't use it for breaching either, as you don't know whether or not it will ricochet.

    Density or size? What about the stuff other tha the rib?.....
    They are not the same size as a human, and the FBI has concluded that a large entry wound doesn't mean anything. They say it should go through at least 1 foot of ballistics gelatin, and then the bigger, the better. (With limitations of course. Too much recoil is also bad)
    It suffers from the same problem as EXTREME SHOCK.

    I think the ballistics gelatin experiments show it isn't a good self-defense round according to FBI standards. It may defeat a vest, however, I'm more likely to have a problem stopping a regular person because of this ammo than I am to run in to someone wearing a vest that would defeat normal ammo and not extreme shock.

    It says that the ammo doesn't suffer from the drawbacks lead frangible ammunition does. Yet, when actually shot in to ballistics gelatin, it suffers from those drawbacks.

    It's more uniform than a dead pig, and a 1 foot block is a 1 foot block, a dead pig could be anywhere from 100 to 1000 pounds. The FBI and police use it, and they probably know a lot more than I do.
     
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  17. RyanM

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    Make sure you shoot it in the butt! Oh, wait, that's RCBS.

    Then, I believe shooting this thing with an Extreme Shock would only make it mad.
     
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