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Extreme Shock Ammo - What are the bullets REALLY made out of?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Owen Meany, Feb 5, 2008.

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  1. Owen Meany

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    Here's the jaw-dropping description from Extreme Shock's site (I know most of you have likely come across it in your travels, but still...):

    NyTriilium matrix particles? Come on. Can anybody explain in layman's terms what material they are actually using, and how it is formed into bullets? :confused: I saw the word "Tungsten" in there somewhere, I think, but can anybody elaborate?

    Anybody have some of this ammo (gasp)? Shot any?

    And no, I'm not thinking of purchasing Extreme Shock :D. I'm well aware of the inadequacy of frangible rounds for general defensive purposes. But I am extremely curious to find out about this stuff.
     
  2. esol

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    I'm pretty sure they're made of microscopic ninjas

    honestly though i have no idea... a google search for "NyTrilium" or "Tungsten-NyTrilium" turns up nothing but ads for their product or discussions about their product. and while humorous, none of them give any clue of what Tungsten-NyTrilium Composite actually is

    so maybe they really are made of microscopic ninjas????
     
  3. esq_stu

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    I carried it the "fang face" rounds in a P3AT. I think I was sold a bill of goods. The store that sold them to me told me all the B.S. in their ads and convinced me to carry them. Eventually, after a lot of reading, I decided to use 'em up at the range, sell my 3AT, and carry a 9mm with CorBon ammo.
     
  4. bensdad

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    Made of... Snakes and snails and puppydog tails.

    No matter. I'm bad at posting links, so go to Box-O-Truth and check out the tests they ran on them. Not great.
     
  5. copaup

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    I seem to remember a post where someone ran an analysis on the Extreme Shock stuff. I believe the lab results revealed that the super hi tech material was in fact: lead.
     
  6. CWL

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    wasn't it metal shavings held together with epoxy?

    Similiar to the other frangible ammo currently available for cheaper from more reputable companies.
     
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    Capital 'N', small 'y', big f*%@in' 'T' !! what a great advertising idea. They'll get high and stare at it. "The T is talkin' to me, the T is talkin to me"
     
  8. PTK

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    I believe it's pretty much a lower-tech version of Glaser slugs, i.e. powdered/chipped metal (lead, tungsten, who knows, really?) in 5 minute epoxy, formed inside a copper jacket. It works, sure, but they want quite a bit of money per round.
     
  9. Keegan

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    Can we get these rounds in a green death f$*%#in' flavor?
     
  10. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    LANGUAGE, people.

    This is a family site.

    And whatever they're made of, frangible rounds come with penetration issues.

    I will have to ask a brain surgeon how being shot in the toe with an expanding rotational cone of anything will cause neurological collapse to the central nervous system.


    Here's the box-0-truth on the topic: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm
     
  11. PX4-Storm

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    personally i like the Corbon powerball for my 9mm, beretta.
     
  12. Conqueror

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    I've written about these rounds a lot. Their claims defy the laws of physics and grammar.

    "Density mass" is a made up term, simply a combination of two units of measure. It's like saying "volume length" or "weight distance." It's a complete fabrication meant to sound impressive while conveying no information.

    "Expanding rotational cone" is physically impossible. Once the bullet fragments, the laws of physics dictate that its pieces will move in a straight line tangential to their original axis of rotation. In other words, the particles cannot continue to rotate about the bullet's flight axis after the bullet has fragmented. It is not possible in this universe.

    Nor are their dual claims of faster energy transfer AND deeper penetration. You cannot have both. A bullet moves at a given speed - if it gives up its kinetic energy faster, it MUST stop sooner - ie, at a more shallow depth in the target. Claiming that your bullet dumps all its energy immediately - but then continues deeper into the target - is not physically possible.

    ExtremeShock rounds are just a big pile of marketing BS sold at a premium price. Avoid them.
     
  13. XDKingslayer

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    They're, in fact, made up of a special compound derived from Chuck Norris' beard hair. The hairs are ground into a special powder and mixed into a paste with Jack Bauer's tears. The paste is then forced into molds of bullets created from the bones of John Wayne. The molds are super heated, then rapidly cooled by the cold stare of Clint Eastwood.

    It was on "How it's Made"...
     
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    naw...

    They are made from compressed kittens. One per round.
     
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    They should have used THAT in their ad! I'd buy it.
     
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    Thank you to the moderator.

    Great reference. What I will never understand is why individuals write such ridiculous responses.

    Catchy names sell: Golden Saber Gold Dot, etc. Manufacturers decide on a catchy name as most do.

    May we please leave out the eloquence and try to be objective?

    Some of the response posts are truly beyond belief.

    A surgeon in AZ
     
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    Now I want to buy a pack of them to cut them up and analyze :p
     
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    Don't bother, you'll have to get a 2nd mortgage on your house just to afford a box. It's not cheap getting hairs from Chuck Norris' beard ya know.
     
  19. Rampant_Colt

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    It's used by these guys:

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    Extreme Shock ammo is marketing hyperbole at its finest [or worst], and makes wild claims about their ammo in magazine and website ads suggesting its use by para-military and Special Forces..etc, which is also a bunch of rubbish.
     
  20. CWL

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    It's the same guy. Even bothered to 'darken' the image on the right in hopes of making it seem like 3 guys. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's been quite a while since high school physics but something doesn't sound right - I don't believe the cone is rotating. Rotational rate translates into tangential velocity when the ninja particles are jettisoned from the ny-trillium mother ship.

    If things worked the way their marketing department describes, slings would never have worked as the sling stone would retain rotational momentum after release. Goliath would have stomped David like a bug and the bible would have a different ending.

    Beats me what Ny-trillium actually is though. It's a trademark so could be anything they choose it to be. My wild guess would be nylon and lead named by someone with a fascination with Douglas Adam's characters. Well, that would be Ny-Trillian, but close enough I suppose.
     
  22. Deacon Blues

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    The real question is, what are the exploding pants made of? :D

    If it's really just epoxy and lead, I could make them at home. I think I could make them for a lot less too... not that I'd have any use for the finished product.
     
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    Sorry, moderator. The excitement of nytrillium momentarily impaired my better judgement.
     
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