Facebook and firearms?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ThomasCarey, Dec 14, 2009.

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  1. mcdonl

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    Facebook is great. I do a lot of fun stuff (Fun to me anyway....) and my cell phone allows me to take pictures and put them right on Facebook. I love that.

    I also stay away from politics and religion on facebook. I also try not to offend anyone, as I know my employer, the government and probably other "organizations" watch facebook, but you know what... who cares. Like a) they are going to use it against me or b) if I didnt post there, and they wanted to find out about me they wouldnt be able to.

    So, if you want to be my friend... go for it [email protected].... But be warned... not all of my pictures or comments are suitable for everyone :)
     
  2. Werewolf

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    Me neither...

    What the heck is the attraction.

    Can someone please explain?
     
  3. Grassman

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    You might have to be under 30 to get it.
     
  4. ArmedBear

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    When I was a young teenager, I would spend hours on the phone with friends. Now, that would annoy the hell out of me. And I don't really care what everyone is doing every minute.

    I have a Facebook account. I "get" it. I just find it annoying after a while, so I don't pay much attention to Facebook any more, just like I don't really care what Travis did yesterday at school.

    That said, I agree with those who figure that guns should be as common as any other objects, and shooting as ordinary as any other activity. If you can stand Facebook, then it's as good a place as any to spread that.:)
     
  5. Kimber45acp

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    OK, let me try this again because somehow, someone got offended at what I said. Facebook seems to be something that caters to a mindset that men just don't comprehend, but women DO comprehend. If that is somehow offensive, I hope to get a reasoned, thought out point of view instead of a nasty threat.
     
  6. Zoogster

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    I think a lot of personal information on those sites is foolish.

    Those sites are monitored. Even if you have your privacy settings set so only certain people can view them, the company itself still sees and often sells that personal information.

    Many corporations pay good money for the information in such databases. It is a gold mine for marketing research.
    It gets really bad when people tie it in with cell phone use and connect via cell phone because then they are tying something they actually pay for and already tracks them with the network identity and its information.

    Through such sites, twitter records, and cell phone and text message records you can spy on a significant portion of the nation and see their day to day activities without them ever knowing.
    When such records are tied together tracking people and being sure of their identity is even easier.
    People tie these records together themselves by doing things like giving the cell phone company the information (by entering it into the phone to connect) of twitter, social networking sites, and various instant message services.
    Combine that with records of where the person's cell phone goes (automatically generated on all phones as they connect to different cells throughout the day) and you can create a very detailed map of many people's lives.

    Knowledge is power, and giving that much knowledge to people able to casually review those records just seems stupid. No matter how law abiding you are. You may think you have nothing to hide. It is still handing over a lot of power.

    The federal government has programs in place to monitor most of the nation as much as feasible. People doing such things just make the information generated on them that much easier.
    Information that can also be taken out of context. That text message 2 years ago tied to something said on such a site a week ago could be combined into something really out of context.
     
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  7. iScream

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    I have a bunch of gun pics on Facebook. One of my friends on there is employed by Facebook and has never mentioned anything about them to me. If there was some policy there or some reason to be concerned I'm pretty sure he would have given me a heads up. Of course, my pictures are only visible to people I know. No offense to the OP but I don't share my info with random people from the 'net. Everyone on my friend list is someone I have met face to face at some point.

    As to the attraction question, I don't have a good answer for you. I don't post often but it's a good place to see what's going on with people you grew up around and lost touch with. I have a ton of requests to play the goofy games but I haven't even tried any of them. Just have no interest.

    I have the Facebook app on my iPhone and it's a good way to kill time while waiting in line, or waiting for someone to show up and unlock the ammo cabinet at WalMart. I still only read about a third of what people post on there.

    -Chris
     
  8. Kimber45acp

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    You definitely get points for avoiding the time absorbing games. I have a question about the first thing you said though (in the section I quoted). Don't you find it wierd and creepy to interact with people you haven't seen in 20 years, who you will probably never again see in person, who are completely different NOW than you remember them when you were a kid, and who you have nothing current in common with? It just seems fake.
     
  9. mcdonl

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    It is what it is. For me, it is a place to share photo's. I also have teenage kids and it is not only nice to be able to keep an eye on them, it is responsibile.

    For the person who wants to be enlightened. Sorry, no can do. You managed to get on the internet and make a post, so you clearly understand what a social networking site is and you do not agree or see the value in them. No one is going to change your mind on that and it would be pointless to try.

    iscream said....
    Thats too bad. I am friends in a facebook sorta way with a few guys from another gun related site. We will likley never meet because we are scattered all over the world but tied together by a common bond. But, I get your reasoning. I guess I am just not that paranoid/concerned.
     
  10. ThomasCarey

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    Well I am 38 and can tell you a lot of the folks in my friends on FB are far older than that. It's good way to keep in touch with people in far flung places. Plus connect with people whom you might not otherwise ever find who share some of your interests.
     
  11. Brian Dale

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    Data can be aggregated, analyzed and sold. It's a marketing gold mine. When your data are there to be sold, there'll be little chance of your affecting to whom they'll be sold. There's a Neal Stephenson short story, published fifteen years ago, that did some foreshadowing of the idea. This sentence is your inappropriate language warning.

    Here's a link to the story, for anyone who's interested. It's called Spew.
    . . .
     
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  12. Hold My Own

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    Hey, Thomas. I feel where you're coming from. Gun Enthusiasts on Facebook are few and far between. I remember a friend of mine who happens to be a Catholic Priest posting a picture of the bolts for an AR-15 and a CETME side by side and tagged me and all of a sudden we're "Crazy Militiamen."

    Seriously, Facebook? :confused: :banghead:

    Like some of the other guys said. I've met everyone on my friends at some point in my life, or I've known on forums for a long time. Even still, I don't share my location, my e-mail address, screen names, or any way to contact me besides messaging me on Facebook.

    I don't understand how people are so comfortable with putting their phone numbers on Facebook, or posting EXACTLY where they are.

    Example: I'm outside of "so and so" right now with my friend (insert name here).

    Maybe I'm paranoid? But hey, that's just me.
     
  13. Zoogster

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    Those records are also permanent. Even if you delete or alter your profile, the old profile data remains separate in the database.



    Interesting that in 50 years people can still see what some teenager was thinking about on a specific day.
    Pick a famous person today. In 50 years a similarly famous person will have a trail of electronic public data on them from such sources.
    Some will be able to go back and see what the president was thinking about at 16 when he was talking to his high school friends. Twittering or the current equivalent of the time and creating permanent records.
    What interested them in college. What types of quarrels they had with others.

    As data storage technology increase, the amount of space necessary to save such records becomes more and more insignificant. Making it cheap to keep it indefinitely.

    Those teens and young adults that instantly have to tell everyone about every experience creating permanent records will have few private experiences. After all, those experiences were documented in real time as they happened throughout their life and entered into permanent record stored indefinately.
     
  14. Kimber45acp

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    Is there a "social networking" gun site (I mean a site patterned after the social networking model designed to put your personal info on display and connect personally with people)?
     
  15. mcdonl

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    The times have changed, yet are so much the same.

    Other then the micro chip what significant advancements have thier been since the 50's?

    We still primarily burn fossil fuels
    We still use cartridges with primers, powder and lead
    We still rely on internal combustion engines

    Sure, there are a lot of gadgets and communications have changed but other then communications we are still living in the same technology our parents and grandparents used.

    As far as communications goes, well... we can still keep secrets.
     
  16. iScream

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    Nah, not if I actually knew the people back then. It's actually a little wierd all the distant family members I keep getting requests from though.

    -Chris
     
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    For those trying to look like rebels by "not getting the point of facebook", well, you're asking about the point of internet social forums... on an internet social forum. Just a heads up.

    As far as interacting with people who you haven't seen in years being weird... if that is weird, you must REALLY be stretching to interact with thousands of people you have NEVER met on this site.

    The reason I don't put gun stuff on facebook is because the audience is too broad, and can potentially include people searching specifically for employment related reasons. I understand the point about making firearms use look normal. I really do. I'm all for that, and more power to anyone who wants to put their guns, politics, religion, or other potentially controversial topics out there. I just can't bring myself to do it. Also, at least on a site like this, you have to go to the extra step of tying a user name to a real name, which is something that isn't going to be hard for someone who REALLY wants to know, but specialty forums are just not going to be the targets of mass searching like the general ones are.
     
  18. wishin

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    I use FB as a bully pulpit for 2nd Amendment rights and conservative issues that need to hit home. It's also nice to stay in touch with family and friends.
     
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    I am completely honest and open about my interest in guns on FB. I want my utterly normal and benign usage of firearms to be seen by my all of my anti-gun friends. You'd be surprised how many have PM'd me and asked to go shooting. My Brit and Euro friends included.

    If Uncle Sam is monitoring my FB account to find out that I just started reloading, or that I prefer my STI to my Springer, then that proves the data mining they do is completely useless.
     
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    Sorry, not interested in this kind of networking. I don't believe our agreement on 2A rights entitles THR members to my personal information.
     
  21. iScream

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    That's pretty much the way I view it too. I keep thinking of that phone commercial where the guy is sitting on the porch twittering "I'm sitting on the porch".

    I think more info is sold about each of us from using our grocery store cards to get the sale prices than from Facebook pages.

    -Chris
     
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    About the only personal info my Facebook page gives away is that I have a some sweet guns, some nerdy friends, a hotty wife and I've been to a few cool places on vacation.

    -Chris
     
  23. bigalexe

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    Freakshow you should really start a page for your business, its an easy way to get exposure.

    I use Facebook for communication with geographically extended family members and a number of friends I wish to maintain contact with. My biggest rule is that I am not friends with anyone who I have not met in person.

    However keeping on topic I have 2 albums devoted to firearms and am present in another one.
     
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    If you know me, you know I'm a gun nut (among other things.) If you don't, you'd find out pretty quickly anyways.
     
  25. gunnutery

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    Can someone fill me in on the government survielance program? I have all my settings set to "friends only" and there wouldn't be any reason for the government to get a subpoena without probable cause. Since I've set my friends only settings, non friends cannot even see my status update (not that my status updates would have probable cause for govnment action even if they could see it).
     
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