Facial Wounds

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The only hunting I've ever heard of where a pelvic shot is generally acceptable is turkey hunting with a bow. If hit from the broad side it pretty much keeps the bird from going anywhere.
 
We had a man get killed breaking in a house from a single 22 LR through his eyeball and out the back of his brain leaving a Orange sized hole. It was from a rifle and I believe it was a Remington yellow jacket at 15 feet.
 
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We had a man get killed breaking in a house from a single 22 LR through his eyeball and out the back of his brain leaving a Orange sized hole. It was from a rifle and I believe it was a Remington yellow jacket at 15 feet.
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Doh! wear them saftey glasses
 
"Doh! wear them saftey glasses"

A .22 RF is well over the design limit for safety glasses.
 
Here's how I see it: If someone gets shot in the facial area with a .380, if it doesn't kill them, it will definitely stop them long enough for you to place a follow up shot in the same general facial area. I'm sure that 2 shots to the face from a .380 is going to send a clear message to the receiving party that maybe they should reconsider whatever it is that they did to make you do such a thing.
 
I don't think any SD handgun caliber/round would be slowed much by any of the bones in the face. Facial bones are relatively fragile - broken cheek, teeth, nose aren't that hard. Probably comparable to a thin piece of pine, maybe 1/2 inch at most. Handgun rounds would zip right through them.

Facial shots would cause devestating wounds, probably lethal. If not lethal it would cause incredible pain, blood loss, and effect the individual significantly. The head bleeds a lot and there are a lot of nerves in the face/head. Many of your senses are located in your head/face (sight/smell/taste/hearing) so there is a LOT going on there. I recon any solid hit would end the fight immediately and probably cause death within minutes at most, and probably immediately.

Senator Gifford was shot in the head. She survived after many surgeries. I recall seeing a statistic at the time about the % of people that survive headshots. It was an incredibly low percent, well under 10%. Something like 5%...

Then again, this guy survived (at least long enough for the video) an AK47 headshot... ! Bullets do weird things. Looks like this guy attempted to shoot himself with a rifle under the chin and it exited his forehead.

WARNING - Gruesome content!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97d_1284297781
 
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hit those hands (instead of his face) and he's going to be very messed up, might well drop the gun, even. he'll lower his hands if shot there, and subsquents shots then have a free path to the head. I'd never bother shooting anyone in the chest with a 380, factory ammo now, armored or not. It is just too feeble.
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Well heck, if you can just shoot his hands all willy nilly when you want to, then just shoot the weapon from it and be good to go. :rolleyes:

.380 isn't feeble as you claim and the type of shooting on demand that you are talking about is reliably peformed by folks in combat about 0% of the time. Hands are often hit, often only because they are in front of the intended target and randomly the rest of the time.
 
I once worked with a paramedic/firefighter who's brother shot him in the mouth with a .357. The bullet entered the cheek, hit the jawbone, and ricochetted out the front taking both upper and lower front teeth. When I say he is anti-gun, that is an understatement.
 
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