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Now that I don't get. I understand making a heavy BR gun, but making one that'll accept gobs of accessories that are completely useless for BR shooting?

Why do you say gobs?

Why can't a user (for example) use one 11-slot rail on each side for a side mount bipod?

Having the slits run the entire length allows them to virtually test and put rails wherever they want. (Every user likes the bipod in a slightly different spot - some like them as far forward as possible, others in the middle, others somewhere in between.)

If someone wants to load it up with tactical toys what do I care? :)

Couldn't water also mess with the balance? Sloshing water may interfere by rocking the gun, being detrimental the extreme accuracy this thing would be designed for. Not trying to nit pick, just offering ideas because I want you to be as successful as posssible.

Depends on how the water cooling system is applied. If you have a system that cycles water around the barrels and allow no air gaps (I guess you could say pressurized water?) in the system it would run just fine I imagine.
 
The purpose really would just be so that you could keep your rifle on target while you change magazines instead of looking over at your cart and grabbing a clip from that, possibly causing you to lose your target in the process and taking more time.
 
Well I think in the end the system will allow for the user to configure whatever they want.

I mean there is already a huge market for ammo/mag attachments as is, all that is needed is an available picatinny rail. We are trying to avoid spending any R&D money on something that is already over saturated in the market and focus on truly new and innovative ideas.

I mean we might be interested in making some sort of apparatus that uses the barrel to heat food - we could call it the MMBS aka "Mobile Microwave Battle System"! :p
 
Couldn't water also mess with the balance? Sloshing water may interfere by rocking the gun, being detrimental the extreme accuracy this thing would be designed for. Not trying to nit pick, just offering ideas because I want you to be as successful as posssible.

Joel Pendergraft's 1000 yds heavy benchrest record holding rifle is watercooled.
 
Couldn't water also mess with the balance? Sloshing water may interfere by rocking the gun, being detrimental the extreme accuracy this thing would be designed for

That's an easy one to get around; Baffles. That's how the problem is addressed with tractor trailer tanks (except dairy haulers; no fun in a hard stop!)
 
ok, now that i know what id does, i think its neat :D.....i still think it needs a school girls outfit tho...
 
Is teasing people about a yet to be finished item now taboo or something? Building anticipation or pulling peoples curiousity strings now off limits? Man I'm stumped. Help a guy out.
Anything which improves the "signal-to-noise" ratio here is welcome. Anything that dosn't, isn't. More signal, less noise. Just as a general rule.

Proceed.
 
RE the pictures above, at what point does a device cease to be a rifle, and become simply a mobile test barrel mount? I feel that the record holder is beyond that point.

The OP's, however, is still recognisable as a rifle...mostly. So, props to him.
 
Anything which improves the "signal-to-noise" ratio here is welcome. Anything that dosn't, isn't. More signal, less noise. Just as a general rule.

Proceed.

Forgive my dumbness - but you are basically saying that spammy/useless stuff is a no-no. Was anything I posted fall under that?

The Joker comes to mind with some people, "Why so serious?"

There is a reason major companies don't offer more frequent updates (or none at all) from a new products birth to its completion - everyone now a days is "now now now" and "gimmie gimmie gimmie". lol
 
RE the pictures above, at what point does a device cease to be a rifle, and become simply a mobile test barrel mount? I feel that the record holder is beyond that point.

The OP's, however, is still recognisable as a rifle...mostly. So, props to him.

The point of a rail gun is to master the equipment and the cartridge loads and remove the human error of the shooter from the equation.

Imagine you are wanting to test your new reloads, but you yourself are a horrible shooter. So you have some choices. A sled, sandbag, or some other contraptions - or have a personal professional world champion shooter at your disposal. The latter is probably not going to happen.

A rail gun is like having the perfect shooter at your disposal. A rail gun does not make human error and can only make error based on its construction or its ammunition.

Its a long going dispute about if rail guns require any skill. I think the people who oppose them do not get the basic concept, its a challenge in your construction and reloading ability - it has nothing to do with the shooter.

As for ours, its somewhat of a hybrid rail gun. We wanted something with similar results, but still mobile and we absolutely wanted something cool looking people can identify with.
 
No doubt this is a superbly accurate AR platform rifle, but by choosing a magazine fed autoloading action you have introduced mechanical error into the equation. It seems as most rail, and F class for that matter, are based on single shot actions to allow for the highest degree of repeatability shot to shot.
 
Well that is sort of the point - to not be like everyone else and see how far we can take an auto loader.

We have however not written off an upper receiver that is setup with a side charging bolt and and plugging the gas block.

Time will tell.
 
It's fun to see new things like this. I never would have thought this up.

One of two things will happen:

1. Since no one has pursued this type of mechanism, it makes me obnoxiously rich.

2. It flops flat on face. There was a reason there was no market.

I think, "Meh - worst case situation I end up with a 'one-off' custom firearm that no one else has or can purchase." Then I wait 30 years and sell it. lol!!!

But yea - look at the "zombie" market right now. I slap some zombie stickers on it and take some cool photos with a zombie theme and I can retire early!
 
Here's what you do. Make a few uppers and sell them to prop houses cheap. They get put into some SCIFI movie and BOOM you have a market.
 
A few more I dug up when we were toying with rail configs and side mounts.

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I think its a neat idea.

Forget about what all of the nay-sayers have said. I got a fortune cookie the other day that said: "A closed mind is like a closed book, Its just a block of wood." I'm pretty sure it applies here.

While you are at it though, I would think about adding a brass catcher of some kind.
 
Thanks for the comment - its nice to get positive feedback when the internet allows for everyone with a keyboard to act like a donkeys rear end.

Feedback doesn't have to be positive, but people tend to be more trollish when trying to convey why they don't like something.

While you are at it though, I would think about adding a brass catcher of some kind.

We just recently were talking about a cool idea along these lines. Some sort of duct-work that attaches over the ejection port and directs the rounds to simply drop down straight.

Yea we could just put a $5.00 nylon net on - but what fund would that be?

We also toyed around with the idea of the duct work going into an ammo box of some sort to catch at all the brass.

Since this is a bench rest only application, we have all kinds of ideas we can mess around with since mobility is not constraining us.
 
The PRS can easily be fitted with a mono-pod. The bottom cap slides of to reveal a Pic. rail.
 
Man she's ugly! I bet it's a fun rifle to shoot though and bench guns rarely look sexy anyway IMO. Looks like you are having fun doing what you love, more power to you!
 
If this is for BR shooting, what about adding a rear bipod so all you have to do is snug up and pull the trigger...like a built-in lead sled.

Its funny you mention that. One of the things we were messing with. It actually does not get in the way of shooting like some might think.

(The reason its on on the PRS rail is to much elevation)

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