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Favorite 9mm load?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Citadel99, Nov 15, 2005.

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  1. Citadel99

    Citadel99 Member

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    Okay. I'm going to reload 9mm. I'm going to reload 9mm. I'm going to reload 9mm. Don't want this to turn into a "Reloading 9mm is dumb and a waste of time" thread.

    So, what's your favorite load? Any favorites with W231? I'd like to standardize my pistols with one powder if possible.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  2. Jeeper

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    I like 147gr zeros with 3.2 gr of VV n320 or titegroup. Super soft and accurate
     
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  3. MNgoldenbear

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    Sorry, nothing with 231. (I do understand about cutting down on different powders -- place starts looking like a reloading supply shop after a while... then again, is that a bad thing or a good thing?:D )

    I'm using DELETED of AA#7, 125 LRN molycoat from Bear Creek Supply (decent prices, shipping included), WSP primers, 1.125" OAL, light crimp, mixed cases (yeah, I know, but it's just for a Glock and they're not so hot that they should be dangerous given case variations). Getting about 1120 fps over the chrono from a Glock 19.

    (Yeah, I also know people say not to run lead in Glocks, including Glock. I clean the gun and there's never been a sign of buildup in the barrel or front end of the chamber. The molycoats clean up pretty easily, too.)
     
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  4. Quantrill

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    125gr. Lee LRN on top of 3.5gr. 700X. Quantrill
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    Without knowing the bullet weight and type or the gun, I will only say that Winchester data is rather conservative and you will not blow anything up by using their top load of 231.
     
  6. Archie

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    NATO ball duplication load

    124 grain plated bullet and WW231 - I don't remember the exact amount but your load manual should have one.

    They shoot as well as any other practise load I have. They cost something like $3.50 a box. Cheap and utile, my goal.
     
  7. callgood

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    I've had good groups with 4.5 gr of Titegroup and 124 gr Gold Dots. CCI 500 primers. Chronoed at avg of 1170 fps out of my HiPower. Very clean.

    Also shoot Precision Bullets (LRN) for practice. Not with my notes, final load escapes me- I'll try to edit and add later.

    That was "Titegroup" I'm the "tightwad." Sorry.
     
  8. Zak Smith

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    124gr plated RN
    4.2gr Titegroup
     
  9. The Bushmaster

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    All these guys above are in a cloud:D . Favorite load using W-231? No problem...115 gr Winchester JHP, 4.8 grs of W-231 (My favorite powder for .38 spec., short barreled .357 mag, 45 ACP), WSP all in a Winchester case...Don't listen to these guys. They all hate W-231. It must be the easy flow through the powder dispencer, the consistent charge weight and the excellent burn rate for any pistol and short barreled revolver. Other then that I don't know why they don't like W-231. Me? I love it...:neener:

    WARNING: 4.8 grains of W-231 is a maximum charge by MY Winchester load manual. Work up to it slowy and carefully...
     
  10. frankt

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    I have been shooting a lot of 124gr fmj bullets from Zero with 4.3 of W231. It is mild recoiling,functions great in my semi autos and is very accurate.

    I shoot too much to keep up my habit only with reloads and a single stage press, but I keep a bucket full of clean deprimed 9mm brass and when the mood strikes me I will put together 100 rounds. 100 is about all I have the patience for at a time. Brass is free, bullets,powder and primers are reasonable. You can't beat it for reliable accurate ammo, and plus it is relaxing.

    Good Luck with your reloading.
     
  11. Cortland

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    I just loaded 2K 115 gr. FMJs with 4.8 gr. of HP-38 (same as W231). Accuracy is not a concern, but they do seem to get down range. 3.8 gr. of Bullseye behind a 147 TC is an awesome subsonic load. I've also used Unique in some 125 gr. bowling pin loads to good effect.
     
  12. The Bushmaster

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    Cortland...According my load manuals Lyman #48 and Sierra #5 HP38 duplicates W-231 in preformance only. Load data is not the same. 4.8 grains of HP38 is not the same as 4.8 grains of W-231. Sorry, but I can only quote what my manuals tell me...:rolleyes:
     
  13. Cortland

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    Someone mentioned that 4.8 gr. is the maximum 115 gr. load for W231. Well, my Hodgdon manual shows the same for HP-38. I don't encourage anyone to start interchanging powders based on what they hear on the Internet, but I have heard from a number of reliable sources that HP-38 and W231 are identical, and the load data that I have access to tends to confirm this. It might be fun to buy a can of W231 and compare with the chronograph.
     
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    i like bullseye for 9mm. its not the cleanest, but with up to 5gr in a case with a 115gr bullet its easy to check powder level
     
  16. Murphster

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    6.7 grains of Blue Dot behind a 124 Grain FMJ. (I believe I got this originally from one of the Browning Hi-Power forums.) Outstanding with a HP. Shoots an inch or so lower than POA at 15 yards from my Sig 239.
     
  17. The Bushmaster

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    Yup...You're right Deavis, and I will still disagree with you when I have several manuals that show different powder charges for each when they [even] list HP-38 along with W-231. I found it rather difficult to even find load data for HP-38. Now HS-6 is a different story...:banghead:

    Deavis...How ya doin' these days???:neener:
     
  18. Deavis

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    The .1gr difference (usually the offset) is attributed to the taggets. The powders are identical otherwise form everytihng I can find.

    Doing good here, ich studiere jetzt mein Deutsch oft. Ich vergehe nach Dresden näechste Marz. Ich werde meine Gewehre ersehnen.

    I'll never figure out German in time. Adjective endings, okay, I buy it. Gender, I buy it. But damn it all, verb order is going to be the death of me in dependent clauses. How is life treating you? Don't worry, I took the last set of rounds out of the tumbler this weekend and should be putting them under the microscope next weekend if everything goes well. :)
     
  19. The Bushmaster

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    L O L...We still on that??? I figure if you want to tumble your loaded rounds, go right to it...Here is a direct quote from Sierra. "No. Aside from the possibility of a sharp pointed bullet striking a primer and causing a detonation, the deterrent coating may be altered which speeds the burning rate. Most tumblers would require the ammo to be tumbled for quite some time before it was thoroughly cleaned, possibly long enough to cause some breakdown of the powder or its deterrent coating. the simple answer is, "No, don't do it.""

    In that I take good care of my stored ammunition and feel that any corroded rounds just aren't worth the trouble to tumble I remove the bullet and discard the rest. Gun powder makes good lawn fertilizer. Then I tumble the projectiles and load them in good cases...And I still WILL NOT substitute HP-38 for my beloved W-231 no way, no how...Not worth the chance...:neener:
     
  20. Clark

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    I like 158 gr XPT and Power Pistol in virgin primed RP brass seated to 1.169" and shot from a Kel-Tec P11 or Glock 19.
     
  21. The Bushmaster

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    Citadel99...You still with us???:uhoh: I hate it when this happens...:D
     
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    I like 6 GR Unique with 115 FMJ or 124 GR Lead. 8 GR Blue Dot same bullet.
     
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    Federal 124 grain Hydra shock.
     
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    124 grn RN over 4.2 grains Titegroup. OAL 1.155
    115 RN over 4.4 grains Titegroup. OAL 1.145
     
  25. IMtheNRA

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    I have been reloading for a very short time, but I was lucky enough to quickly stumble onto my Beretta 92-C favorite load found in the Speer manual #13.

    Speer 115-gr TMJ #3995
    Win 231 4.6 grains
    CCI small pistol primer
    COAL 1.135
    Hornady dies
    My own used brass

    This shoots significantly softer than the Winchester white box rounds that I used by the thousands over the years and I was shocked to see the significant improvement in accuracy this load offers for my particular pistol.

    I end up with a round that costs more than WWB 100-packs at China*Mart, not to mention all of the time spent, but I find that the significant improvement in accuracy is worth it for me.

    By the way, I had to increase the charge to 4.8 grains to ensure reliable function in my Glock 19-C, where this ammunition also shoots more accuratly than WWB.
     
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