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Favorite heavy 9mm projectiles

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by taliv, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. Texas10mm

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    I've shot a lot of heavies in my Ruger PCC without problem. Of course my main heavy has a profile that allows one to seat it quite far out in the case.

    I had to have my Canik TP9SFX throated so I could load the bullets out longer. There was almost no throat and the rifling started with a 90° angle, it was leading with everything. Now that it's been throated I can load longer and it does't lead. The barrel slugged at .357 and it wouldn't chamber a .358 bullet till I had it worked on.
     
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    taliv,
    I checked and have 50 of the RMR Heavy Match winner 147s I can spare if you want to try them.
     
  3. taliv

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    i was surprised to see the market has pushed past 147 too, but if it works, more is better for subsonics!

    current 115s are around 5.5 cents. would like to stay under 10 for sure, since i'll be going through a lot of them

    hmm, conceptually that all makes sense but in practice they seem to work pretty well. in this case, the cz "pistol" only has a 4.5" barrel so i'm pretty sure i'm ok.
    on a humorous note, the past two times i went to local gun store, i saw the gunsmith hammering bullets out of the barrel of a revolver

    awesome! thanks for the offer. I'll PM you in a moment
     
  4. Charlie98

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    No, I can see heavies for subsonic use... that makes sense.
     
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    taliv,
    they are on the way to you, hope they fit.
     
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  6. roval

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    i use 147 gr sns casting and MBC flat point and round nose. no problems shooting in my czs 85,pcr, p10c , p10f ,sp01, shadow 2 without any problems
     
  7. DanK3Pos

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    I'm relatively new to reloading, but with 9mm Luger, the ID increases further into the case. If you dial in too much bell on the case mouth, the bullet just drops right on down in the case. I do have cases that -look- bulged, but that is just how the Dillon dies work. They feed fine in my 9mm pistols (CZ included).

    Is there something I'm missing here?
     
  8. jmars

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    DanK, You are correct. I made some assumptions at the time that were not true. Those 160ish grain bullets were probably sized .358".

    I had loaded and shot many hundreds of 110 gr. .357" jacketed bullets in 9mm's at that time (in carbines), and just thought maybe the lead SWC's would work as well.

    If these bullets were properly sized to .355/.356 I assume that they would work.

    It's not you that is missing something, it's me. :)
     
  9. taliv

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    the black bullets that size are also being resized for me to try
     
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    147gr HiTek coated from Acme is what I shoot the most of. Good accuracy, and just a pinch of TiteGroup (3.1gr) to get them to 980 fps.
     
  11. Thornapple

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    Hey all... I'm about a year into casting and reloading and at this point looking for info on using my cast 158grn LRN (PowderCoated and sized down to .356") for 9mm plinking - mostly out of Berettas and a Ruger P95, but also a Ruger PC Carbine. I did read through the above a couple of times and I'm sorry if I just missed the simple answer, but I see 2 aspects of this idea that seem to matter: 1) achieving sufficient pressure and velocity to avoid squibbing, and 2) allowing sufficient space in the case for the combustion, after the nose is set back as far as it needs to be to feed. Assuming I'm not missing anything there, and assuming my 158s are properly sized, is there likely to be a reliable recipe for my heavy 9mm plinking ammo? I'm becoming comfortable with the idea of letting them push a little past the threshold of how fast a cast bullet should go, as I understand the PC is pretty effective at keeping barrel-leading down, but I'm definitely not interested in adding gas-checks to my applicable toolset just now. Any thoughts appreciated, and thank you already for all the info! I've been forum-lurking for a year and couldn't imagine having scraped together all the knowledge everyone shares. Cheers!
     
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    Yeah I would stick to using that load in my 9mm pistols. NOT in a 16-18 inch carbine barell. A squib would suck!
     
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    I shoot a ton of Berrys 147g under 3.5g Titegroup. Its my USPSA load, and accurate as could be. People are amazed when they shoot it how nicely it handles.
     
  14. Texas10mm

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    How did those function with the bullet sitting under the powder?
     
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    Ha... Yeah, i kinda reversed those didnt it..
     
  16. taliv

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    finally got around to loading the 147g dudedog sent, along with some 147g hornady XTP i bought a box of from local gun store. both worked great. recoil is a bit more than my 115g that i've been shooting, but maybe i just need to get used to it. no problems functioning out of my pistol or scorpion

    thanks again @Dudedog !
     
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  17. lordpaxman

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    Good deal! I find when loaded to the same PF, the heavier bullets have lesser perceived recoil. That is if they both function in the firearm at the same PF. Are you able to chronograph the loads? Uh-oh, I sense another “do I really need a chrono?”!

    Did you get a chance to try the 160s?
     
  18. taliv

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    I haven’t even looked at the pf. I’m just shooting Published max charge for the same powder for both weights. The recoil just feels slower. Like the heavy bolt on the scorpion takes longer to cycle but at same time is pushing the sights a little further off target.
    I do have a magnetospeed.
     
  19. Dudedog
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    taliv,
    your welcome,
    glad they fit and shot well for you!
    Reasonable price on them from RMR $50/500, $90/1000 (and take off the THR 5%) so about $85.50/K shipped.
    Better prices still if you order more than 1000.
     
  20. TonyAngel

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    Wow, I didn’t realize people were loading 9mm with anything heavier than 147.

    Back in the late 80’s, early 90’s we tried resizing .38 bullets for 9mm and it was disastrous. We ruined one if those made in Portugal hi powers. Way over pressured.

    I suppose more selection in powder and projectiles has made it possible.
     
  21. TfflHndn

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    I'm a big fan of the Xtreme 147 grain heavy plate concave base bullets. I use AA #5 or Silhouette powder and they are very accurate and consistent.
     
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