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Favorite Modern Battle Rifle: Beside AR or AK

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by InkEd, Nov 11, 2010.

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  1. InkEd

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    The battle between AK and AR has oulasted the Cold War. It has been debated ad nauseum online and shows no sign of having a clear winner. So enough about those two rifles.

    My question is beside the two aforementioned rifles the AK and the AR, What is your favorite modern battle rifle?

    Let's define "modern" as WWII or later conflicts.
    Base your answer on COMBAT use NOT shooting TARGETS.

    Feel free to expalin the reason for your selection.
     
  2. InkEd

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    Sig550 for me.
     
  3. Mr. T

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    The following are not ranked in any particular order of preference:
    Civilian Browning BAR in 30.06 or .308
    Remington 7400 in 30.06 or .308
    Ruger Mini 14 or 30
    Remington model 700 in 30.06, .308 win., or .270 win.
    Winchester model 70 in 30.06, .308 win., .270 win.
    M1 Garand
    M1-A
    M-14
     
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    Barrett REC7, H&K M416
     
  5. sansone

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    BAR or
    Rem R25
     
  6. RX-178

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    XCR or PTR-91 over here. It's the only two that I currently own that aren't AKs or ARs.
     
  7. jyo

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    The FN FAL .308 would be my pick---reliable, accurate, soft recoiling in a well proven package.
     
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    H&K M416 is too close to an AR IMHO to count.
     
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    Remington R 25 is, too. ;)

    Personally, I like the idea behind the F2000 series, but it needs a bit more refinement.
     
  11. Al Thompson

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    M14 or FAL
     
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    Ok according to your time period, this is the oldest of the "modern" battle rifles. My favorite is the M1 Garand even if we were including the AR (M16 and variants) and the AK. Its combat performance was spectacular (even with the distinctive 'cling') and the soldiers who used it made up the greatest generation of Americans and did more than their share to ensure freedom for others. In my mind, the
    M1 set a standard that no rifle since has lived up to, and it will be hard for any combat rifle to ever accomplish its mission the way this fantastic rifle did.
     
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    L1A1 (SLR) with a 30-round Bren magazine ... reminds me of days long past.

    :)
     
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    FN FAL
    HK91

    accurate, reliable, durable, hard-hitting ammo.

    BUll-pup rifles are cool too and if we can include bolt guns, the AW G22.


    Honestly, my favorite besides an AK is a M110, but you said no AR's...
     
  15. CTW

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    I go with the FAL.
     
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    From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

    I've got the airborne version - no complaints whatsoever.............

    Isher
     
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    M1A/M14 certainly makes the short list. FAL would also.
     
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    I really like the handling of the AR-70/90, but even better is the StG45. I haven't shot an StG44, but I expect it's similar - the 45 just points really naturally for me, has nice soft recoil, and big easy controls.

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  19. Maverick223

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    Make mine a L85A2, though I really like the VZ.58 as well.

    :)
     
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    HK-91 hands down.

    As to the AR/AK debate in my opinion it's no contest the AR is the clear winner, accurate to 350M the AK is a pie plate 100M rifle and not near as "durable" as many profess it to be as I've seen all manner of them jam (not often granted) and they're horribly inaccurate, rust easily, have junk for sights etc.

    Having said that I own two AKs because of the fun factor.
     
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    I have heard that the actual Swiss arms 550 (or 550 series?) (Not Sig) is a sweet rifle. Hard for me to go against the Isrealis and their Tavor rifle.
    http://www.swissarms.ch/index.php?id=30
     
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    That is another good one...though I don't believe I can give the Tavor the edge over the L85A1.

    :)
     
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    most folks claim their ak's are 2-3" 100yd groupers
     
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    Most people are about right. While I have seen some shoot as poorly as about 6in. groups, most seem to keep it in about 3-4in. without trouble, and there probably is a 2" AK out there somewhere. I believe the vast majority of "accuracy problems" are caused by inexperienced and poorly trained shooters. My VZ.58 can shoot sub-2in. groups with stock irons (and ME using them!)...I was really impressed. I am eager to see how it really performs once I put a decent aperture on it, I bet it'll tighten up a bit (I tend to do much better with a peep).

    :)
     
  25. TexasRifleman

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    FAL for sure. "Right arm of the free world"
     
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