FDLE has changed their LE Qual Course

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For folks who live in Florida and qualify for LEOSA. FDLE has changed the qual course. The Brevard County Sheriff's Office has released a video showing the new qual course for LEOSA. This is the same qual course used for all actively-sworn LE in the state. There's no difference between being actively-sworn or retired. It still isn't hard.



Stage One:
Time required: 6 seconds
Rounds required: 6
Starting at the 1 yard line shooter, make ready and holster their pistol. On the signal, they will assume a compressed, one-handed shooting position and engage in the target with three rounds. They will then take a step back and re-engage in the target at full extension with another three rounds.

Stage Two
Time required: Two strings of 3 seconds each
Rounds required: 4
Start on the 3 yard line on the centerline of the target in the compressed ready position. On signal, the shooter will step to the left and engage the target with two rounds in three seconds, then recover back to the centerline of the target and assume the inside ready or compressed ready position once more. On the start signal, they will step to the right and engage in the target with two rounds in three seconds. Once done, recover back to the holster.

Stage Three
Time required: Two strings of 5 seconds each
Rounds required: 6
Begin on the 3 yard line, pistol loaded and holstered. On start signal, draw, step to the left and with the right hand only, fire three rounds within five seconds, then recover back to the centerline of the target.

Switch the pistol to your support hand and assume the inside ready position. On the start signal, step to the right and fire three rounds using your support hand in five seconds. When finished, switch the pistol back to the strong and recover back to the holster.

Stage Four
Time required: Two strings of 5 seconds each
Rounds required: 4
Start at the 7 yard line with your pistol loaded and holstered. On the start signal, draw and step to the right and engage with two rounds, then recover back to the holster and return to the centerline of your target. On the start signal, step to the left and engage the target with two rounds in five seconds. then recover back to the holster.

Stage Five
Time required: 20 seconds
Rounds required: 12
Shot from the 7 yard line. On start signal, step to the right and engage the target with 6 rounds, perform a reload and engage the target with six more rounds, then recover back to the holster.

Stage Six
Time required: 15 seconds
Rounds required: 6
Begin on the 15 yard line. On start signal, step to the right and engage the target with 6 rounds, then recover back to the holster.

Scoring:
To qual, you must get 33 out of 38 rounds to hit the B-21e target's zone 4 and 5, which translates to around 87 percent to pass, plus it adds in strong hand only and weak hand only shooting.

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Just shot mine for the year, pretty close to this one but, malfunction drills and 25 yard shooting make it a bit more difficult. The 25 yards count a hit anywhere on the silhouette.
 
That's easier than any my Dept has done in the last 23 years, and we're Corrections, for crying out loud. I do have to ask, what is "compressed" ready?
Of course, we don't qualify for LEOSA, so I only go to states with either Constitutional Carry or that honor our civilian CCW permit.
 
Wait, WHAT? Corrections isn't LE or qualified for LEOSA???
Wisconsin Correctional Officers are not deemed or paid as Law Enforcement Officers either. I know it's BS, but the state saves money. You can be road construction and make the same as a Correctional Officer. No way I'd work for them.
 
I've done the course with a revolver and it wasn't hard.

Do they adjust the number of rounds fired/scoring for those using 5-shot revolvers?

FWIW, I was gratified to see during my last LEOSA qual that they still had a course-of-fire adjustment for anyone using a 5-shot revolver. That was common in the old days of service revolvers, and then continued when we allowed our folks to continue to carry full-size and snub revolvers off-duty, but I wondered how long it might continue when all the new cops (and instructors) were favoring the diminutive subcompact pistols that have been flooding the market.

Guess I'll see how it's addressed when we move to another state in the coming year, and I continue my LEOSA quals in our new resident state. My former agency already accepts notification of 'official' qualifications done out of the area here in CA, as well as out-of-state, when forwarded for ID card renewals by retirees living far away, so I'll be doing quals for both LEOSA and retirement renewals elsewhere at some point in the future.
 
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Wait, WHAT? Corrections isn't LE or qualified for LEOSA???

No doubt it varies among states, as well as among what's classified as 'peace officers' among corrections officers. Here in CA the state's Corrections Officers are classified as Peace Officers, and there's a specific PC section granting them peace officer status. However, the state leaves it up to the wardens of each facility to determine whether to grant the ability to carry off-duty weapons to the CO's assigned to each of the facilities, and the code requires they qualify quarterly. I know a guy who has to qualify quarterly to maintain his retired CO peace officer ability to carry concealed weapons, which also keeps him amply current for LEOSA purposes.

Then, at the county level there have been some changes over the years regarding county corrections officers, at one point being a type of corrections Public Officer (not being fully sworn deputy sheriffs), but who are also not granted peace officer powers to be armed or have the ability to make arrests.

Then, there was the way that only Level 1 reserves here were recognized as being able to be qualified for LEOSA, either on their active reserve ID's or their retirement reserve ID's (meaning the had an aggregate of 10 or more years reserve service as a L1 or DL1 reserve).
 
Do they adjust the number of rounds fired/scoring for those using 5-shot revolvers?

FWIW, I was gratified to see during my last LEOSA qual that they still had a course-of-fire adjustment for anyone using a 5-shot revolver. That was common in the old days of service revolvers, and then continued when we allowed our folks to continue to carry full-size and snub revolvers off-duty, but I wondered how long it might continue when all the new cops (and instructors) were favoring the diminutive subcompact pistols that have been flooding the market.

Guess I'll see how it's addressed when we move to another state in the coming year, and I continue my LEOSA quals in our new resident state. My former agency already accepts notification of 'official' qualifications done out of the area here in CA, as well as out-of-state, when forwarded for ID card renewals by retirees living far away, so I'll be doing quals for both LEOSA and retirement renewals elsewhere at some point in the future.
No, in fact, the instructors recommend people not shoot the course with a revolver.

Also, you have to get new cards? Your ID cards expire?

I was issued one and that's it. No more new ID cards in the future. I keep mine in my safe.
 
That's easier than any my Dept has done in the last 23 years, and we're Corrections, for crying out loud. I do have to ask, what is "compressed" ready?
Of course, we don't qualify for LEOSA, so I only go to states with either Constitutional Carry or that honor our civilian CCW permit.


In FL, Corrections used to not be LEOSA qualified. But the PBA lobbied the legislature to add Corrections to LEOSA qualification by statute.
 
No, in fact, the instructors recommend people not shoot the course with a revolver.

Also, you have to get new cards? Your ID cards expire?

I was issued one and that's it. No more new ID cards in the future. I keep mine in my safe.

Wonder why they don't recommend revolvers, unless it's a skill issue resulting from not using DA (or DAO) revolvers for LE anymore? ;)

Considering the popularity of the snub revolvers, agencies which require qualification for Secondary and Off-duty weapons reasonably ought to prepare their folks to qualify with them.

As far as the new ID cards for retirees (active cops typically only change ID cards when a new Sheriff or Chief takes over, if the ID cards bear the signature of the appointing authority)? ...

Except for the peace officers retiring before 1-1-81, the retirement ID cards must have an expiration date on them, and the retirees must petition their retirement agency every 5 years to renew their CCW privilege. The relevant code sections are PC 25460 & 25465 ion this link:

FWIW, some agencies have their own policies which shorten the renewal periods for retirement ID cards, and not just for the guys & gals wishing to take advantage of LEOSA and qualify annually. I met one guy who gets a new retirement ID card every year he qualifies for LEOSA. It can vary a bit around the state.

Now that Congress (house) have passed the newest bill making some revisions to LEOSA, I'm wondering how long it will languish in committee in the Senate. One of the changes will allow the states to decide if they wish to lengthen the LEOSA qualification period from 12 months out to no more than 36 months.
 
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Wonder why they don't recommend revolvers, unless it's a skill issue resulting from not using DA (or DAO) revolvers for LE anymore? ;)

Considering the popularity of the snub revolvers, agencies which require qualification for Secondary and Off-duty weapons reasonably ought to prepare their folks to qualify with them.

As far as the new ID cards for retirees (active cops typically only change ID cards when a new Sheriff or Chief takes over, if the ID cards bear the signature of the appointing authority)? ...

Except for the peace officers retiring before 1-1-81, the retirement ID cards must have an expiration date on them, and the retirees must petition their retirement agency every 5 years to renew their CCW privilege. The relevant code sections are PC 25460 & 25465 ion this link:

FWIW, some agencies have their own policies which shorten the renewal periods for retirement ID cards, and not just for the guys & gals wishing to take advantage of LEOSA and qualify annually. I met one guy who gets a new retirement ID card every year he qualifies for LEOSA. It can vary a bit around the state.

Now that Congress (house) have passed the newest bill making some revisions to LEOSA, I'm wondering how long it will languish in committee in the Senate. One of the changes will allow the states to decide if they wish to lengthen the LEOSA qualification period from 12 months out to no more than 36 months.
FDLE doesn't allow their own to carry a revolver as a BUG.
 
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