TallPine
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Nice image, but ever heard of prison escapes?
Fugitives can and do go anywhere and everywhere, looking for fun or means to survive. Many times they have nothing else to lose.
Yes, very rare, but it happens.
Fear factor or Why do you carry a gun?
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Nice image, but ever heard of prison escapes?
Fugitives can and do go anywhere and everywhere, looking for fun or means to survive. Many times they have nothing else to lose.
Yes, very rare, but it happens.
"Nice image, but ever heard of prison escapes?'
Well , myself I like shooting far more than anybody I know. But I don't feel the need to be armed everywhere I go - I suppose if I was that fearful of going out I would just stay home all the time with the doors locked up. If the prison escapee makes it here so be it - not enough reason for me to be armed. Now if the news announced that the escapees were in our county on the loose - that would make a little more sense to me. To carry a gun on myself everywhere I go would be a major inconvenience that I simply have no desire to put up with. If you carry legally that is your right - I have no problem with that. Like I said before - back in NC where I used to live ,carrying a gun would be a good idea. But to have the mentality that all gun owners should be armed at all times - to me, that is infringing on my rights.
Well , myself I like shooting far more than anybody I know. But I don't feel the need to be armed everywhere I go - I suppose if I was that fearful of going out I would just stay home all the time with the doors locked up. If the prison escapee makes it here so be it - not enough reason for me to be armed. Now if the news announced that the escapees were in our county on the loose - that would make a little more sense to me. To carry a gun on myself everywhere I go would be a major inconvenience that I simply have no desire to put up with. If you carry legally that is your right - I have no problem with that. Like I said before - back in NC where I used to live ,carrying a gun would be a good idea. But to have the mentality that all gun owners should be armed at all times - to me, that is infringing on my rights.
Walosi
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I also live in a small town with a low crime rate. Two-man police force. Most of the calls are for prowlerers, an occasional burglery. Most violent calls are domestic. Still, our little burg has its drug culture. They show up in other towns in the area, busted in a meth lab, indicted in shootings which started with drugs deals, etc. I feel safe here, but still carry. The druggies in the OTHER towns can come here, even if our own tend not to mess where they live. They are all mobile. They are always on the prowl for quick financing. Applying logic to the situation, and feeling safe based on the percentages, just won't wash. Mr. Murphy controls these circumstances and situations. With that part of our population wandering about with half-fried brains (which were fairly low powered to begin with) the only thing that applies is preparedness. Shooting has been my hobby and recreation for over 50 years. It has been for relaxation and sport. It has always had the capability of being used defensively, and I have absolutely no problem with staying "prepared" around the clock. It is not an intellectual exercise, and doesn't require thoughtful rationalization - just a natural extension of my normal life, to meet our times.
P95Carry
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Good summation there Walosi ... I'd guess we are much same age group. I think pretty much same.
Regardless of where we live, and allowing for the ''Murphy factor'' I just think that ''Expecting the unexpected'' and ''don't assume'' are two good things to keep in mind ..... added to which of course ...... ''Better to have and not need ..........''
Regardless of where we live, and allowing for the ''Murphy factor'' I just think that ''Expecting the unexpected'' and ''don't assume'' are two good things to keep in mind ..... added to which of course ...... ''Better to have and not need ..........''
TallPine
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Good grief! Who is infringing on your rights?
Ryder
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I ive in a quiet town but travel frequently. Not all the bad guys are in prison. I usually browse this site about once a month or so. Evil does walk amoung us.
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benewton
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FWIW
Most of us "carry" a watch.
We don't need to, since cars and work places have clocks, so what's the point?
Are you that afraid of not knowing what time it is? Add in the fact that your personal time piece is very unlikely to be correct, and what would be the point of "carrying" one?
Just another tool, to be used as required, no more no less. Not exact, but good enough to get the job done.
Carry a CCW?
And, a weapon to boot: a gun is a crew served weapon, and who carries anything which requires a crew?
Carry, or don't, your choice and you pay the piper, either way.
But recognize that others, no matter which way you fall, have made another choice, take a deep breath, and relax.
No matter what you do, or what happens to you, life will continue for just about all of the rest of the world, in some fashion or another.
As for me, I'd like to shoot, but I've go stumps to do....
And off I go!
Most of us "carry" a watch.
We don't need to, since cars and work places have clocks, so what's the point?
Are you that afraid of not knowing what time it is? Add in the fact that your personal time piece is very unlikely to be correct, and what would be the point of "carrying" one?
Just another tool, to be used as required, no more no less. Not exact, but good enough to get the job done.
Carry a CCW?
And, a weapon to boot: a gun is a crew served weapon, and who carries anything which requires a crew?
Carry, or don't, your choice and you pay the piper, either way.
But recognize that others, no matter which way you fall, have made another choice, take a deep breath, and relax.
No matter what you do, or what happens to you, life will continue for just about all of the rest of the world, in some fashion or another.
As for me, I'd like to shoot, but I've go stumps to do....
And off I go!
Moparmike
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When I come of age to buy a handgun and its ammo, I will get a CCW. The only trouble is that I cant carry it in the most likely place I will be outside of my home, and that is college. I am not even sure if I can have it on the streets and state highways that run thru campus. Well, I know I can, but the local socialists would raise one hell of a stink about it.
P95Carry
Moderator Emeritus
Yep .... John, the thread has about covered all bases! I must say ... fear per se has nothing to do with my decision to carry 24/7 .... it is purely ..... I can so i will ...... plus i am my own protector .... no one else will do it for me.
I would certainly also not say that all gun owners have to be armed as has been suggested earlier .... many cannot or choose not to carry ... so that would be an erronious statement. But those gun owners who do decide to carry are in fact IMO ... doing a service to their county/community ..... whatever. They add to the great deterent effect of carry, on the criminal fraternity.
And of course .... no one MAKES anyone else go armed .. it is a personal decision.
I would like tho for all elligible gun owners to be able to carry .... and act on that as a full time deal ...... not because of fears or paranoia ........ purely because it is possible and because ....... who knows what is round the next corner. ''Expect the unexpected'' .. and as others said ... there are even ''career criminals'' out there with clean rap sheets!!!
I fully expect (and hope) to die of reasonable old age ....... having never fired my piece in anger .... something that most would endorce i think. But all the while (despite my family's oft mentioned jibes at ''the ol fart who always carries a gun''!) ......... knowing that I am at least in a position to defend both myself and those around me.
I would certainly also not say that all gun owners have to be armed as has been suggested earlier .... many cannot or choose not to carry ... so that would be an erronious statement. But those gun owners who do decide to carry are in fact IMO ... doing a service to their county/community ..... whatever. They add to the great deterent effect of carry, on the criminal fraternity.
And of course .... no one MAKES anyone else go armed .. it is a personal decision.
I would like tho for all elligible gun owners to be able to carry .... and act on that as a full time deal ...... not because of fears or paranoia ........ purely because it is possible and because ....... who knows what is round the next corner. ''Expect the unexpected'' .. and as others said ... there are even ''career criminals'' out there with clean rap sheets!!!
I fully expect (and hope) to die of reasonable old age ....... having never fired my piece in anger .... something that most would endorce i think. But all the while (despite my family's oft mentioned jibes at ''the ol fart who always carries a gun''!) ......... knowing that I am at least in a position to defend both myself and those around me.
Chugach
Member
After reading this thread through twice, carefully, I'm going to my safe to get my main carry firearm (my BUG has been in my pocket since I dressed this morning).
[...walking to safe...]
Aaaahhh. That feels better!
A sign of fear or macho behavior? More accurately, a healthy respect of possible consequences. My experience shows me that some few people at rare intervals are irrational or simply bent on evil. Having personally been on the receiving end of such behavior, I choose to be armed.
If you've lived a charmed life and never seen friends, co-workers, or family attacked, I'm really happy for you. In my experience, when violence occurred it happened in seconds. There was no time to call for help or escape.
An on-body defensive tool is a good thing. YMMV.
[...walking to safe...]
Aaaahhh. That feels better!
A sign of fear or macho behavior? More accurately, a healthy respect of possible consequences. My experience shows me that some few people at rare intervals are irrational or simply bent on evil. Having personally been on the receiving end of such behavior, I choose to be armed.
If you've lived a charmed life and never seen friends, co-workers, or family attacked, I'm really happy for you. In my experience, when violence occurred it happened in seconds. There was no time to call for help or escape.
An on-body defensive tool is a good thing. YMMV.
CasualShooter
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1. Boy scout training 50 years ago - Be Prepared!
2. Life experience - See #1, it pays!
2. Life experience - See #1, it pays!
I've answered this before, both here and on TFL -- and, of course, the other answers on this thread are mostly right on target.
But I'm going to answer it again. This time, not from the perspective of why I started carrying a gun full-time, but why I keep doing it. The fact is, carrying a gun can be uncomfortable. The gun gets in the way of some activities, both literal and figurative. There is a constant and slightly uncomfortable awareness that the folks around me would frown upon me if they knew I had a gun under my outer clothing. Nevertheless, I continue to carry almost all day, almost every day -- and here's why.
Last week, I went to pick up two of my children from summer camp, and drop another two off at the same camp for the next session. The camp is about 3 hours from my house, in a rural area. The road we travel to get there is a two-lane highway, scenic and beautiful. And we were traveling in broad daylight.
Before I left the house, I put my gun on.
Did I expect any trouble? Nope. I just wear it as a matter of course. It's what I ordinarily do and that's what I did on this ordinary day.
After dropping one set of kids off and picking up the next set, the kids (ages 11 and 9) and I wandered down to the beach. We walked along a nearly empty boardwalk and enjoyed the sun and the crisp breeze. Yes, I still had my gun on. I didn't leave it in the car because I expected no trouble. I carried it, because that's what I always do.
Because we were enjoying ourselves, we stayed at the beach a bit longer than I had originally intended, and so it was nearly sunset before we got back in the car for the ride home. We got back in the car and I noticed the car needed fuel, so we stopped at the gas station. There were other people fueling up, and I did my standard observant glance around the station before I stepped out of the car. I did that, because that's what I always do. Filled the tank. Got back in the car ... and the car spluttered spluttered didn't want to start.
Hmph.
My sons and I push-started the cruddy little car and I mumbled a few choice comments under my breath (that's what I always do, after all). The car was going, sounded all right, and I was wondering ... "Now what??" The ride home was going to take about 3 hours. We'd piddled around at the beach so that it would be full dark before we got home. For various reasons, I do not own a cell phone -- not that it would have mattered since this particular stretch of road is notorious for its lack of cell service. Was the car reliable enough to drive down the deserted stretch of road? Should I risk it? If I didn't risk it, what would I do instead? There were no service shops open in this almost nonexistent town on a Saturday night, nor were there likely to be the next day.
I know nothing about engines (hey, that's what God made mechanics for!) and had no idea what was wrong. Maybe I'd left the headlights on while we were walking the boardwalk? If so, driving awhile would take care of the problem -- and I couldn't think of any really great alternative plans.
So we started back on that empty deserted stretch of road. And of course the car died (fiddlesticks and other comments). So there I was, a woman alone with two young boys, with no cell phone, on a deserted stretch of two lane highway just as it was about to turn dark.
Was I worried? About the car, yes. But I wasn't worried about our physical safety -- I had my gun and I knew I could protect myself and my children if a predator came along.
Shortly after the car died, another car pulled over and the man driving it asked if we needed help. Was I worried? Nope, I was relieved. I didn't have to worry about him, because I knew I could protect myself if he turned out not to be the good Samaritan he appeared to be. Having the means to defend myself allowed me to be friendly and confident in talking to a stranger in what could have been dangerous circumstances. So I gave him the phone number for AAA and asked him to call them for me. He said, "All right, I'll do that -- and I'll come back and let you know what they said so you'll know if I got ahold of them okay." Nice guy.
Fifteen minutes later, the man returned, handed us three cold Cokes, and told me AAA was on the way. I thanked him profusely and the kids gave him their best grins.
An hour after that, I was still sitting on the side of the road, waiting for my tow truck. The boys and I had run out of things to talk about. I was bored, a little worried that AAA had forgotten us, and getting hungry and sleepy. Finally, the tow truck showed up -- a greasy driver who talked a mile a minute. Of course he was greasy, that's his job. But a woman alone on a deserted country road knows in her bones that the tow truck guy could be a rapist. Did I worry about that? Nope, not really. I had the means to take care of myself and my kids if I needed to. Because I was confident, I was able to be friendly and forthright.
Eventually, the whole situation worked itself out, as these things do. Nobody offered me the slightest violence and because I was confident in my ability to take care of it if they did, I was able to be outgoing and friendly rather than frightened or churlishly suspicious in dealing with other people in what I considered to be a risky situation.
And that is why I carry a gun all the time.
pax
Never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be. -- Clementine Paddelford
But I'm going to answer it again. This time, not from the perspective of why I started carrying a gun full-time, but why I keep doing it. The fact is, carrying a gun can be uncomfortable. The gun gets in the way of some activities, both literal and figurative. There is a constant and slightly uncomfortable awareness that the folks around me would frown upon me if they knew I had a gun under my outer clothing. Nevertheless, I continue to carry almost all day, almost every day -- and here's why.
Last week, I went to pick up two of my children from summer camp, and drop another two off at the same camp for the next session. The camp is about 3 hours from my house, in a rural area. The road we travel to get there is a two-lane highway, scenic and beautiful. And we were traveling in broad daylight.
Before I left the house, I put my gun on.
Did I expect any trouble? Nope. I just wear it as a matter of course. It's what I ordinarily do and that's what I did on this ordinary day.
After dropping one set of kids off and picking up the next set, the kids (ages 11 and 9) and I wandered down to the beach. We walked along a nearly empty boardwalk and enjoyed the sun and the crisp breeze. Yes, I still had my gun on. I didn't leave it in the car because I expected no trouble. I carried it, because that's what I always do.
Because we were enjoying ourselves, we stayed at the beach a bit longer than I had originally intended, and so it was nearly sunset before we got back in the car for the ride home. We got back in the car and I noticed the car needed fuel, so we stopped at the gas station. There were other people fueling up, and I did my standard observant glance around the station before I stepped out of the car. I did that, because that's what I always do. Filled the tank. Got back in the car ... and the car spluttered spluttered didn't want to start.
Hmph.
My sons and I push-started the cruddy little car and I mumbled a few choice comments under my breath (that's what I always do, after all). The car was going, sounded all right, and I was wondering ... "Now what??" The ride home was going to take about 3 hours. We'd piddled around at the beach so that it would be full dark before we got home. For various reasons, I do not own a cell phone -- not that it would have mattered since this particular stretch of road is notorious for its lack of cell service. Was the car reliable enough to drive down the deserted stretch of road? Should I risk it? If I didn't risk it, what would I do instead? There were no service shops open in this almost nonexistent town on a Saturday night, nor were there likely to be the next day.
I know nothing about engines (hey, that's what God made mechanics for!) and had no idea what was wrong. Maybe I'd left the headlights on while we were walking the boardwalk? If so, driving awhile would take care of the problem -- and I couldn't think of any really great alternative plans.
So we started back on that empty deserted stretch of road. And of course the car died (fiddlesticks and other comments). So there I was, a woman alone with two young boys, with no cell phone, on a deserted stretch of two lane highway just as it was about to turn dark.
Was I worried? About the car, yes. But I wasn't worried about our physical safety -- I had my gun and I knew I could protect myself and my children if a predator came along.
Shortly after the car died, another car pulled over and the man driving it asked if we needed help. Was I worried? Nope, I was relieved. I didn't have to worry about him, because I knew I could protect myself if he turned out not to be the good Samaritan he appeared to be. Having the means to defend myself allowed me to be friendly and confident in talking to a stranger in what could have been dangerous circumstances. So I gave him the phone number for AAA and asked him to call them for me. He said, "All right, I'll do that -- and I'll come back and let you know what they said so you'll know if I got ahold of them okay." Nice guy.
Fifteen minutes later, the man returned, handed us three cold Cokes, and told me AAA was on the way. I thanked him profusely and the kids gave him their best grins.
An hour after that, I was still sitting on the side of the road, waiting for my tow truck. The boys and I had run out of things to talk about. I was bored, a little worried that AAA had forgotten us, and getting hungry and sleepy. Finally, the tow truck showed up -- a greasy driver who talked a mile a minute. Of course he was greasy, that's his job. But a woman alone on a deserted country road knows in her bones that the tow truck guy could be a rapist. Did I worry about that? Nope, not really. I had the means to take care of myself and my kids if I needed to. Because I was confident, I was able to be friendly and forthright.
Eventually, the whole situation worked itself out, as these things do. Nobody offered me the slightest violence and because I was confident in my ability to take care of it if they did, I was able to be outgoing and friendly rather than frightened or churlishly suspicious in dealing with other people in what I considered to be a risky situation.
And that is why I carry a gun all the time.
pax
Never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be. -- Clementine Paddelford
Zeke Menuar
Member
No offense to the police, but cops are a reactive force. They can't be around every corner preventing crime. I am the one responsible for my personal safety, particulary in the 1-4 minutes that it takes for the police to respond to a crime.
I have had four separate instances in the last five years where I've had to draw. I don't believe that there is a bad guy behind every rock. I do believe that some parts of town are inherently less safe then others and I won't take any chances, paticularly at night.
ZM
I have had four separate instances in the last five years where I've had to draw. I don't believe that there is a bad guy behind every rock. I do believe that some parts of town are inherently less safe then others and I won't take any chances, paticularly at night.
ZM
My brother-in-law is a decent, church-going, hard-working taxpayer. He said he beleived in delegating the job of protecting his family to our local police department. I agree the police do an excellent job in almost all circumstances. However, I reminded him of an often overlooked fact. From the time you call 9-1-1 until the good guys arrive YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN!!
He thought about this a few days,bought a S&W Air Weight and got his CCW. He didn't become Rambo, shoot his wife,or develope a low self image. He still looks, talks and acts like he always did except he is armed.
He thought about this a few days,bought a S&W Air Weight and got his CCW. He didn't become Rambo, shoot his wife,or develope a low self image. He still looks, talks and acts like he always did except he is armed.
280PLUS
Member
to me its like 4 wheel drive,,,
better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it
and i hope i never need it
m
better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it
and i hope i never need it
m
Tango7
Member
Had firearms since I was 18. (interest since I was a little one, but mom didn't allow guns in house) While in college, had a run in with an idiot as a result of a car hitting my parked motorcycle - he threatened to "blow up my house" if I didn't drop the court case to get my bike fixed. Suddenly, the use of guns in self defense went from the theoretical to very possible. I sat down with my Llama .380, a loaded magazine, and an old Bianchi vertical shoulder rig. After a while, I loaded the pistol, and a watershed moment had passed.
Even in the "safe" suburbs I kept a gun nearby. Moving to my current home (once a crackhouse), I started carrying more frequently. While I am a sworn officer, I am a Firefighter/Paramedic first in the eyes of the city, and do not carry on duty. I carry on my property, and occasionally off.
Why?
a) I work for the City, and I know that, even when dispatch is on the ball, and officers are available, it will take 3-5 minutes after I call for a unit to get to my house. A lot can happen in 3 to 5 minutes.
b) The police department (state) is not responsible for my protection, or the protection of my family, except in the case of foreign aggression.
c) I like having the ability to deal with any situation that may arise in an equal or advantageous manner to protect myself and my family.
d) It keeps the neighborhood gang bangers wondering (so does the 75 grains of FFFg several times on 7/4 and 12/31-1/1)
e) it allows me the ability to dispatch aggresive feral dogs that are on my property with a minimum of inconvenience.
Even in the "safe" suburbs I kept a gun nearby. Moving to my current home (once a crackhouse), I started carrying more frequently. While I am a sworn officer, I am a Firefighter/Paramedic first in the eyes of the city, and do not carry on duty. I carry on my property, and occasionally off.
Why?
a) I work for the City, and I know that, even when dispatch is on the ball, and officers are available, it will take 3-5 minutes after I call for a unit to get to my house. A lot can happen in 3 to 5 minutes.
b) The police department (state) is not responsible for my protection, or the protection of my family, except in the case of foreign aggression.
c) I like having the ability to deal with any situation that may arise in an equal or advantageous manner to protect myself and my family.
d) It keeps the neighborhood gang bangers wondering (so does the 75 grains of FFFg several times on 7/4 and 12/31-1/1)
e) it allows me the ability to dispatch aggresive feral dogs that are on my property with a minimum of inconvenience.
Now we've got a guy who's afraid someone is going to MAKE him go armed.
Good one! LOL! I just recieved the impression from a few that being gun owner meant that you should be armed at all times.
Sorry , I don't get agree with that line of thinking. There are many very legtimate reasons for CCW - the post by pax was really well stated. Many gun owners I know personally carry a gun. If I lived back in Jacksonville , NC and I had the same CCW permit I had here I would probably carry a lot more often as well. There were times here in the past where I carried a few times.
These days - at my age ,I am more concerned with my blood pressure and cholesterol. Carrying a gun for protection is not high on my priority list. But, I can surely understand why many do carry their gun.
Good one! LOL!
I just recieved the impression from a few that being gun owner meant that you should be armed at all times.Sorry , I don't get agree with that line of thinking. There are many very legtimate reasons for CCW - the post by pax was really well stated. Many gun owners I know personally carry a gun. If I lived back in Jacksonville , NC and I had the same CCW permit I had here I would probably carry a lot more often as well. There were times here in the past where I carried a few times.
These days - at my age ,I am more concerned with my blood pressure and cholesterol. Carrying a gun for protection is not high on my priority list. But, I can surely understand why many do carry their gun.
280PLUS
Member
"These days - at my age ,I am more concerned with my blood pressure and cholesterol."
swim, breast stroke, 1/2 hr every other day
there is no better way to excercise for the conditions you are talking about
walking is second but does not work your upper body enough
but remember, as said by someone else around here,
"i am not a doctor, nor do i play one on tv."
and if they give you a little something for the cholesterol and youre feeling all achy and just plain bad, it could be the medicine
this has been a public service announcement, we now return you to your regular thread,,,
swim, breast stroke, 1/2 hr every other day
there is no better way to excercise for the conditions you are talking about
walking is second but does not work your upper body enough
but remember, as said by someone else around here,
"i am not a doctor, nor do i play one on tv."
and if they give you a little something for the cholesterol and youre feeling all achy and just plain bad, it could be the medicine
this has been a public service announcement, we now return you to your regular thread,,,
feedthehogs
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.........Endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The only one responsible to protect these rights for me and my family is ME!
If those that seek to take these rights away from me are armed, then so will I.
The only one responsible to protect these rights for me and my family is ME!
If those that seek to take these rights away from me are armed, then so will I.
Byron Quick
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YodaVader
My personal belief is a bit more global than your example quoted above.
I believe everyone should own a gun and be armed at all times except when locked in secure quarters with trustworthy companions.
However, since I do not believe in forcing anyone to adhere to my beliefs...my beliefs are in no way an infringement of your rights.
But I visit seven graves of friends and family members at least once annually-who, if they'd listened to me-would have had at least a chance of survival. As it turned out for them...they had no chance. In the final extreme, would you rather have a chance at survival or a chance of taking them with you...or no chance at all?
A cousin of a cousin (this is the South) refused to go about his life armed. His reasoning was similar to yours. He broke down beside the road one day. The two guys who stopped... sodomized him, took his boot laces, tied his hands behind his back with one, and tied his neck to a concrete block with the other. Then they threw him in a pond. Maybe just maybe, he would have survived if he had been armed and vigilant.
I'll deal with a right hefty slice of inconvenience for that chance.
You never know when something might happen to you, I'm sure the people that were at various places shootings occured know this, and know it well. You would probably be more inclined to carry 2 lbs. extra on your hip and be safe than be comfortable and unsafe.
Pain
Member
I have had my license now for 2 months, And I have noticed a change in me, and the wife has noticed too. I carry because when armed I have noticed that 1. I'm more aware and 2. I tend to let things slide when carrying. For example last night. We were leaving a concert and I had my pistol in the car. Well as we are leaving traffic is horrible trying to get out of this place, and drivers get agressive. This Guy in a big Dually (sp) misses hitting the wife's pride and joy her car. The dude started cussing and finger this and finger that. My wife started yelling back. I then told her just ignore the guy, we are OK and there is no need to escalate it further and that it can only lead to a bad outcome. My wife looked at me in amazement as I usually don't take anything off of anybody. ( got me hurt a few times too). She turned up the stereo and we ignored the guy. He got to go home, I got to go home and a bad situation was diverted. All because I was trained and armed, and with that comes a big responsibility. It was my responsibility to avoid an altercation and I did. Thats why I carry. Responsibility and the ability to defend myself if being responsible does'nt work.
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