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fear the most, terrorist or our government.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by wingman, Dec 23, 2003.

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  1. wingman

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    Would like some feedback on what board members think on this, which do you
    fear more, terrorist or our government. Perhaps fear is the wrong word, maybe
    concerned./?

    As a senior citizen watching news and reports of the color code change, police
    carrying m16's walking the streets in large cities and the government tells us they are working day and nite to protect us gives me an uneasy feeling.
    Sometimes believe I would rather have my freedom and face a bad guy
    coming at me with an ak47 then to see this in our country and sad to say
    I feel it will only get worse.:confused:
     
  2. Pheonix

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    In the long run, the government will do more damadge to the American way of life than terrorists will.
     
  3. manwithoutahome

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    The government.

    M
     
  4. clubsoda22

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    government. We're going the way of the romans.
     
  5. Leatherneck

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    In the real world, obviously terrs. But I too am getting real concerned about the slow erosion of our liberties. Despite the fact that the .gov types are well-intentioned, such erosion has proven historically to be irreversible.:uhoh:

    TC
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  6. rock jock

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    Right now, the terrorists. We have a great deal more control over our govt. than many on THR would give us credit for. It is generally easier to complain about the tyrannical state of our nation than to either take action through the courts and voting arena or to objectively compare ourselves to a true state of tyranny. The fact that we can even post comments like these reflects the fact that we still enjoy freedom that is the envy of the world. The terrorists, OTOH, want to not only kill you but if possible destroy our way of life, our freedom. They actively pursue that goal on a daily basis.

    Actually, if the truth be told, I really don't experience a visceral fear of either. They are both to be watched carefully, and dealt with accordingly if and when necessary, but I truly feel sory for anyone who wakes up each day in America obsessed with hatred or fear of anything.
     
  7. TallPine

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    Government, for sure.

    Besides, there ain't nothin' around here worth blowin' up.
     
  8. DaveB

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    The government will do only as much damage as we allow.

    I fear the people, right and left, who are too busy to even stay awake while their own government eviserates the Constitution.

    db
     
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    I fear our government the most. If a terrorist attacks we know it is because they hate us and our way of life. Since they can't simply control us, killing us is their only option. Our government is slowly rendering us powerless, unarmed, totally dependent sheep. Sadly, instead of saluting the stars and stripes, we'll soon salute whatever flag they offer. For our own good of course.

    Michael
     
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    Our government...to a point. I think the current establishment will pass some restrictive laws with the best of intentions. Then in the future, another establishment, of the liberal persuasion, will abuse the hell out of them.
     
  11. HBK

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    Also, we should fear any government that wants to take away our right of self defense. The intentions of a government can be seen in a look at how they treat the population, as citizens or subjects.
     
  12. Ian

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    I like to exercise civil rights, so definitely the government. Terrorists just hurt or kill you if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Governments actively hunt individuals and lock them in boxes.
     
  13. mercedesrules

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    The government...whose actions provoke the terrorists.
     
  14. Norton

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    The government....it appears they are using the threat of terrorism as an excuse to erode our rights guaranteed under the constitution.

    It's the case of the frog in the pot being brought up to boil too slowly to notice....whereas a terrorist attack is more akin to being thrown into already boiling water.
     
  15. rock jock

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    There you go - blame the victim.
     
  16. JohnBT

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    Neither.

    The crackheads and junkies are a bigger problem.

    John
     
  17. Bob Locke

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    The government. It isn't even close, IMO, for this reason:

    The government can wrap itself in the color of law while it slowly drains the life out of the Constitution. Terrorists are much more visibly evil in nature, and cannot get away with nearly as much over the long haul.
     
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    The government

    The thing is, i'm working for the government (Army) for the next 4 years.:scrutiny:
     
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    Terrorists
    --chances of being struck by lightening are much higher.

    Government
    --100% certainty of confiscatory taxation
    --100% certainty of abuses of the Patriots Act
    --100% certainty of infringement of political free speech in the next election
    --100% certainty of 2.8 l / flush in Algore's toilet
    --100% certainty of increased gas prices because of boutique blending
    --100% certainty of increased prices because litigation threat
    --100% certainty of the collapse of social security
    --100% certainty of unconstitutional restrictions on the second amendment

    Just off hand I'd say the chances of being harmed by the government are a little higher than being harmed by a terrorist.
     
  20. Lennyjoe

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    Hillary:what:
     
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    Government.
     
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    Terrorists are much less of a daily threat to the safety of my family than idiot drivers on the road.

    I fear my fellow americans who will vote for those who promise to make it all better (the big nanny state) and allow the givernment to choke the life out of everything that makes America great.
     
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    You imply that there's a difference between the two.

    - Chris
     
  24. Malone LaVeigh

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    I am the government.

    At least a very small piece of it.

    It doesn't make any sense to fear "the government", because it isn't a monolithic entity. I fear elements of our security, military, and police establishment that care more about power than about protecting us, their bosses. They get wrapped up in institutional cultures and organizational hierarchies that take over from the only real hierarchy, that they are supposed to serve us.
     
  25. Atticus

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    Neither really....but it is certainly prudent to keep our eyes on one of them, while they keep their eyes on the other.
     
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