I just picked up a new handgun today and the clerk asked me if I had a gunsafe. Huh? I said yes, why? She told me some federal law in going to kick in the end of April that says you need one. I didn't ask for details, but now, thinking about it, I wish I did. What do you folks know??
Federal "Gun Safe" law??
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MrTwigg
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Just another made-up "Law".
I once had some kid working in the Dick's Sporting Goods in Leominster, Ma. tell me I could not even touch a shotgun because only store employees were allowed to handle firearms in the store.
He does not work there any more. I wonder why ?
I went to the Dick's up in Keen, N.H. to get my shottie.
I once had some kid working in the Dick's Sporting Goods in Leominster, Ma. tell me I could not even touch a shotgun because only store employees were allowed to handle firearms in the store.
He does not work there any more. I wonder why ?
I went to the Dick's up in Keen, N.H. to get my shottie.
AmYisraelChai
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Some people just cant get it right. I think if you taped their mouths shut their body would undulate the wrong answer in semaphore if it had to. In other words they are hard wired to allways get it wrong. You all know people like this.
Anyways here is the Genesis for what you were told...
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CHILD SAFETY LOCK ACT OF 2005
This serves to notify you that Public Law 109-92 (119 Stat. 2095), the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, was enacted October 26, 2005. Section 5 of Public Law 109-92, cited as the Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 (CSLA), amended the Gun Control Act by adding Section 922(z) to 18 U.S.C. This new section makes it generally unlawful for “any licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person, other than another licensee, unless the transferee (buyer) is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device for that handgun.” The statute provides that it becomes effective on April 24, 2006. Consistent with the requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will publish an Interim Rule in the Federal Register regarding the new law.
As enacted, the law does not require safety devices to be provided where the handgun transfer is between Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs). The law provides for additional exceptions. ATF will issue an Open Letter once the Interim Rule is published. “Questions and Answers” regarding the CSLA will also be posted on our Web site at http://www.atf.gov clarifying certain points of the
legislation. We look forward to industry members’ questions and comments. For additional information, please contact the Firearms Programs Division at (202) 927-7770.
Anyways here is the Genesis for what you were told...
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CHILD SAFETY LOCK ACT OF 2005
This serves to notify you that Public Law 109-92 (119 Stat. 2095), the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, was enacted October 26, 2005. Section 5 of Public Law 109-92, cited as the Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 (CSLA), amended the Gun Control Act by adding Section 922(z) to 18 U.S.C. This new section makes it generally unlawful for “any licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person, other than another licensee, unless the transferee (buyer) is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device for that handgun.” The statute provides that it becomes effective on April 24, 2006. Consistent with the requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will publish an Interim Rule in the Federal Register regarding the new law.
As enacted, the law does not require safety devices to be provided where the handgun transfer is between Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs). The law provides for additional exceptions. ATF will issue an Open Letter once the Interim Rule is published. “Questions and Answers” regarding the CSLA will also be posted on our Web site at http://www.atf.gov clarifying certain points of the
legislation. We look forward to industry members’ questions and comments. For additional information, please contact the Firearms Programs Division at (202) 927-7770.
Don't Tread On Me
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Unfortunately, the people working in gunshops tend to be one of the most ignorant of firearm laws. 2nd only to the police who are the worst.
How they maintain their FFLs with the ultra-totalitarian BATFE breathing down their necks is beyond me. It seems a very knowledgable, on top of things, professional type of person/business would still need to stay sharp to avoid problems. How some of these other FFLs do it given their "expertise" in other areas makes me wonder.
How they maintain their FFLs with the ultra-totalitarian BATFE breathing down their necks is beyond me. It seems a very knowledgable, on top of things, professional type of person/business would still need to stay sharp to avoid problems. How some of these other FFLs do it given their "expertise" in other areas makes me wonder.
El Tejon
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There is no need to read fiction; one merely has to visit a gun shoppe for their daily requirement of fiction.
Just add it to all the other bs told in a gun shoppe.
"Most accurate gun I've ever shot."
"Recoil will knock you down."
"It's small but it will do the job."
"This scope will make that there raffle highly accereight."
"Ruger will close the magazine to the Mini-14 next year so buy now."
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Just add it to all the other bs told in a gun shoppe.
"Most accurate gun I've ever shot."
"Recoil will knock you down."
"It's small but it will do the job."
"This scope will make that there raffle highly accereight."
"Ruger will close the magazine to the Mini-14 next year so buy now."
Ad naseum
Don't Tread On Me
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Everyone has a story about gunshops. You hear all kinds of bull. I can live with that, and even laugh at it. What I don't care for is the bad advice.
I have about 100 stories, but the very last time I was at a gunshop, I was asking the guy about a couple different models of pistols for my GF. I had told him that she absolutely does not like the recoil of my 9mm. What does he do? He ignores me right after that, then offers her one of those 11oz S&W .357magnum scandium snubnose revolvers. I gave her the signal and we just walked out. There are women out there, who if they took a single shot out of that gun, would probably reject firearm ownership forever.
I have about 100 stories, but the very last time I was at a gunshop, I was asking the guy about a couple different models of pistols for my GF. I had told him that she absolutely does not like the recoil of my 9mm. What does he do? He ignores me right after that, then offers her one of those 11oz S&W .357magnum scandium snubnose revolvers. I gave her the signal and we just walked out. There are women out there, who if they took a single shot out of that gun, would probably reject firearm ownership forever.
Lupinus
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methinks he wanted to get a safe sale in there with your gun
Tomcat1066
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The more I hear stories about local gun stores on THR, the happier I am with MY favorite gun store
Knowledgable, friendly people who will answer your questions politely and respectfully and who have products and competitive, if not great, prices. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones
Heck, they even tell you if it's a rumor or not, rather than just pass it off as fact!!!!
Tom
Knowledgable, friendly people who will answer your questions politely and respectfully and who have products and competitive, if not great, prices. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones
Heck, they even tell you if it's a rumor or not, rather than just pass it off as fact!!!!
Tom
coyote 270
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There are just as many "Stories" about Customers and their stupid questions and comments as there are about Gun Shops and their owners. Long gone are the days when The Neighborhood Gun Shop was a friendly place for the Men to congregate and learn. Having been in the "Gun business for over 30 years I have seen it all and it is depressing to say the least. Who to blame it on?? Doesnt make any difference but the Anti-gunners, over the years, have won and we have no one but ourselves to blame.
PlayboyPenguin
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coyote 270 said:
I agree with that statement on way to many levels to possibly go into here. Just suffice it to say that sometimes gun owners can be their own worst enemies. I never understand when some people realize they are losing a battle their answer is "more of the same" only louder and harder. Sometimes you need to regroup and adjust tactics to suit the current theater.
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