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FFL handling not required for intra-state?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Col. Plink, Oct 30, 2009.

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  1. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Member

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    Hey y'all,

    Just had a question regarding firearms shipping.

    FFL's are only required to receive interstate shipments, correct? If I negotiated with someone in my own state, they could ship to me direct, yes?

    Thanks for your help! (Just realized I may have missed an opportunity to have something shipped direct, oh well...)
     
  2. dogtown tom

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    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faqindex.htm
    Some states have laws that prohibit this.
     
  3. scottaschultz

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    Sell it to you, yes.

    Ship it to you? I am pretty sure the answer is NO! A gun is a gun no matter where you are shipping it. If its not that far away, just go pick it up if it would be cheaper to pay UPS/FedEx charges plus the FFL fee.

    Scott
     
  4. CoRoMo

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    Incorrect, except for the unchanging physical nature of a gun during transport, but nobody said otherwise did they?

    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b8

     
  5. Art Eatman

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    Federal law says yes, ship it. Some states have their own restrictions, which might mean that going through a dealer is required--so it depends upon which state this is to happen.
     
  6. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Nope. Not correct. Others have posted the Federal law on this.

    Now where there may be an issue is with the shipper. You're going to be stuck using FedEx or UPS since a non FFL can't use the postal service and they have some odd rules.

    In the end a lot of people end up paying an FFL to do it for them anyway simply out of convenience. Not necessarily a bad idea.
     
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  7. Col. Plink

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    So may residents of Texas ship firearms to one another directly? thanks!
     
  8. TexasRifleman

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    Yeah you are good from Texas law angle, the Federal law is all that really applies to you here.
     
  9. zoom6zoom

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    Only for handguns. Private citizens can indeed ship long arms via USPS.
     
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    Legally, YES.

    Practically, probably not, because you may not be able to find a shipper that will do it for you, but there certainly is no law against you trying.
     
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    Intrastate transfer/shipping without FFL

    As others have posted, federal law allows intrastate transfers and shipment without involving an FFL. Legally, you can use the USPS for a long gun, but I'm unsure of their policy regarding whether you can ship it to someone other than a FFL. Handguns are a bit more problematic, as non-FFL citizens cannot use USPS for shipping, and most other carriers refuse to ship to a non-FFL. There is one courier service in Texas that I know will carry your long gun or handgun intrastate between two non-FFL parties. They are Lonestar Overnight, www.lonestarovernight.com. Their prices are comparable to other carriers, and you avoid the FFL transfer fee.
     
  12. TexasRifleman

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    I've managed to get FedEx to do it for me in the past but I had to go to one of their main offices and I had to use their overnight service.
     
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    I've sold and shipped both ways in intra-state transactions with fellow Alaskans many times. Long guns ship by USPS, no problem. Short guns cost extra with common carriers and you may have problems, but so far I haven't. Interstate is obviously different.
     
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    If you're not required to drop it off at their station, maybe just call for a pickup service. The delivery driver might not take as much convincing as a counter clerk. I've known the FedEx guy that comes to my office almost everyday now for years, and I imagine he would likely ship anything I told him to.
     
  15. dogtown tom

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    Nope. The answer is yes.

    It is always a good idea to carry the UPS/FedEx/USPS policy with you when you drop the shipment at the counter. I ship several guns each week and still run into clerks who "think" they know the regs. I get to show them those regulations about once a month. I try not to do this to the clerk --> :neener:


    Only FedEx requires shipment to an FFL. See UPS policy below.


    UPS Policy:
    http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res...h_phr=firearms

     
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    I wonder why these issues keep being reported? Is it the counter person obeying "the law of their own making"?

    I've shipped handguns via UPS, and long guns via USPS (both intrastate [to private individuals/FFLs] and interstate [to FFLs]) without a single issue dozens of times.
     
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