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Finally joined the 45-70 club

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by DukeConnor, Sep 24, 2021.

  1. DukeConnor

    DukeConnor Member

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    Picked up my Pedersoli Trapdoor carbine today. I've always admired the Trapdoor and I'm really looking forward to shooting it.

    I have dies and am waiting for my lee 405 grain mould to arrive.

    Brass is a bit hard to find but thankfully a friend has come through with a couple dozen.

    I have some gongs to torture.
     
  2. troy fairweather

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    Trapdoors are great fun to shoot. With the price and Availability of powder pyrodex and bp loads are a good way to go.
     
  3. Dave DeLaurant

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    It's a fun cartridge -- hope you'll have a long and happy relationship with it!
     
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  4. thegatman

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    I use Trailboss for my trapdoor.
     
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    This is a great club. I got my C Sharps and then a Henry. I may just take that Henry for a hike this weekend. Its bear season.
     
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  6. DukeConnor

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    I don't shoot black powder and I am trying not to go down that path (I have enough irons in the fire) but this thing screams for it.
     
  7. Jimster

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    Oh man! You gotta load BP for your 45-70. Otherwise there will be a disturbance in the force. There’s nothing quite like the sound, smell and gentle push of a blackpowder 45-70 being sent down range. It stirs the soul. Congratulations on your new rifle.
     
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  8. troy fairweather

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    You won't believe how easy bp is to load, once your organised your can load a lot very quickly.
     
  9. LAH

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    The 45-70 is one of the greats.
     
  10. Riomouse911

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    It’s a fun cartridge for sure. I don’t shoot BP out of my Marlins, but out of a trapdoor like yours it just seems so right :thumbup:.

    Acme makes some heavyweight coated lead bullets if you ever want to try a 450 or 500 gr bullet out of your rifle :).

    Stay safe.
     
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  11. ms6852

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    According to Steven P Garbe and Mike Venturion black powder can be more accurate than smokeless, especially at long distance. Check out their book "Black Powder Cartridge Reloading Primer" the 9th edition.

    Congratulations on a fine rifle and caliber.
     
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  12. troy fairweather

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    By the way were are the pictures, you know we want to see if lol.
     
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  13. DukeConnor

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  14. troy fairweather

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    Nice even some Striping in the wood. Need a thin strip of leather for the saddle ring.
     
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  15. StrawHat

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    I have bought and sold dozens of the Springfield Single Shot Rifle, still have two. One is a common 1873 rifle, the other is a sporterized 1866. I hunt with the 1866. I agree that at least the originals shine with black powder and lead bullets. (They also work well with black powder and jacketed bullets.) I don’t recall an affinity for the carbines but they shot well enough.

    Paul Matthews, “40 Years with the 45-70” and Spence Wolf’s “Loading Cartridges for the Original 45-70 Springfield Rifle & Carbine” are two books I would recommend.

    Kevin
     
  16. eastbank

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    don,t hot rod it, it will kill every thing here in the states with original 45-70 loads. and bp will be easy to clean up in the trapdoor.
     
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  17. Armored farmer

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    Man, that's got a nice piece of lumber on it.
     
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  18. DukeConnor

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    I need to do something with it to keep it from rattling and rubbing.
     
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  19. Speedo66

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    I had an original Trapdoor Carbine, before I got into reloading.

    Factory 405g loads in the lighter gun kind of beat me up, couldn’t get through a full box off the bench.

    Good luck with your new gun!
     
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  20. DukeConnor

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    Thanks.
    At 60 bucks a box I doubt It will ever see factory ammo. I have dies and a mold on the way.
     
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    I have a bunch of brass from Hornady lever evolution rounds. They're a littl shorter to accommodate a spritzer bullet. All once fired and clean. If you can use them and want to pay shipping I'll send them to you.
     
  22. DukeConnor

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    Thanks for the offer. I have plenty of brass. Maybe someone else here can use them.
     
  23. Shanghai McCoy

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    There is a reason that the Army developed a carbine load for the cavalry. I believe it was/is 55gr of black powder with a card filler and a 405 grain bullet.
    I have one of those repro carbines and it is fun to shoot. (With the "carbine" loads that is..)
     
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  24. Speedo66

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    Yeah, if I were to do it now it would be a reduced load of powder with a muzzle loader ball of the correct dimension.
     
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