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FIRE MISSION - petition to Repeal Virginia Restaurant Ban

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  1. W.E.G.

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    FIRE MISSION - petition to Repeal Virginia Restaurant Ban

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Snyder
    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:46 AM
    Subject: VA-ALERT: Urgent Pre-Lobby Day Action

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    VCDL's meeting schedule: http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html
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    VCDL has set up an online petition to Repeal the Restaurant Ban on
    concealed carry in restaurants.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/VCDLrtrb/petition.html

    We want to let the Legislature AND the Governor know that Virginians
    WANT this absurd ban repealed!

    Even if you can't attend Lobby Day, you can make your voice heard --
    sign the petition.

    Spread the word. Post the petition link on blogs and discussion forums.
    Get your friends, family members, and shooting buddies to also sign
    the petition.









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    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
    dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

    VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
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  2. uh-oh

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    DONE!
     
  3. Duke of Doubt

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    ***?

    Virginia bans concealed carry at McDonald's?

    Just how the f**k is Mayor McCheese supposed to apprehend the Hamburglar?
     
  4. JohnBT

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    Restaurants with beer or liquor by the drink licenses.

    Which means no pizza for lunch if I'm out for a walk and the joint has a beer license - and they all do around here. Same deal with the delis. And no won-ton soup for me either.

    Virginia does not have bars and the ABC Board controls the alcohol licenses for restaurants and they run the liquor stores.

    John
     
  5. Black Knight

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    I have mixed feelings about the law and the petition. In one sentance it would seem to imply that it is fine to carry and consume alcoholic beverages. I was brought up that guns and alcohol don't mix and if you carry you don't drink, if you drink you don't carry. The rest of the petition is fine.
     
  6. Prince Yamato

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    Which means no Chuck E Cheese's... they serve beer.
     
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    I do not think it is that unreasonable to seek repeal. I think something like what we have here in this state might work, and I do not disagree with it. It's okay to carry into a restaurant, even if alcohol is served there, so long as you stay out of the bar area. Obviously, dedicated bars are off limits as well under this rule.

    So if you're just going to Chili's to have a burger, that's okay... but if you want to hang out at the bar area in Chili's, that's a no go.
     
  8. Prince Yamato

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    Here come the teetotalers...Just because you have a drink doesn't mean you are drunk or incapacitated. Just because you carry a gun in a bar doesn't mean you're going to get drunk. What about the designated driver? What about someone who is just going out with friends, but doesn't drink?
     
  9. wnm

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    Sounds pretty absurd.

    Here in OK we aren't allowed to carry into an establishment whose primary focus is alcohol.

    In other words, it's ok to carry to Chili's for a burger. Not ok to carry in bars.

    And did you say Virginia doesn't have bars? That's just crazy. Where do you go for drinks?
     
  10. uh-oh

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    A restaurant with an ABC license.
     
  11. JohnBT

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    "And did you say Virginia doesn't have bars? That's just crazy."

    No it isn't. Virginia ABC law requires the sale of food, a substantial amount of food, in order to get and keep a license to sell alcohol by the drink.

    IOW, name one place in Virginia that only sells alcoholic drinks.

    John
     
  12. MAKster

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    You can open carry in establishments that serve alcohol. An inside the waist band holster where the grip is visible is considered open carry.
     
  13. rscalzo

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    Evwen NJ allows carry in bars.........
     
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    Signed!
     
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