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Firearm smells awful

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by beeenbag, Feb 18, 2013.

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  1. beeenbag

    beeenbag Member

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    Just like the title says.

    I bought a used 336c with the JM stamp. I bought it for a song and a dance ($100), but man does it smell like a camp fire something awful. I mean just handling the gun leaves me smelling like an all nighter at a bon fire.

    It is smelling up my safe, what can I do to get this smell off without damaging anything?
     
  2. TurtlePhish

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    Have you cleaned it?

    That's a really weird problem. If it's something on the metal it should clean off relatively easily. If it's the wood, probably be hard.
     
  3. beeenbag

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    yeah, I took the lever off, and pulled the bolt. cleaned inside the receiver, and inside the bore, and all on the outside with CLP. I even tried hunting scent stomper on the wood to no avail.
     
  4. dpote

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    Could it have been in a fire and absorbed the odor?
    I would take off all the wood, and clean the wood with Ballistol.
    The smell could be trapped on the underside of the forearm.

    Dave
     
  5. Akita1

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    if the wood wasn't properly treated/coated in may be impossible to remove the smell. You can try to seal it again, or maybe just a new stock?
     
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    Ozone chamber.
     
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    I have a buddy that works for a home restoration company. They have an ozone room that they put smoke damaged merchandise it to remove the odors. You could probably search out a company like that it your area and see if they can do it for you for a reasonable price.
     
  8. beeenbag

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    when I first looked at it, I noticed the smell. I thought he might have been using a woodburning stove to heat his home with, and the smell would soon fade. Nope, its hangin in there full force.
     
  9. T Bran

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    Brownells sells new wood for a fair price.
    I really cant see a piece of metal holding scent as bad as you describe so it is probably the wood.
    You may be able to seal the smell in with some clear coat but I'd probably just replace it.
    Good luck with the stench.
    T
     
  10. Agsalaska

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    That is odd
     
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    think putting it in a gun case with baking soda and or charcoal would help any?
     
  13. rcmodel

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    Baking soda will take the bluing off & rust anything else you put in the case from now on.

    Try what I said to try in post #11 before you do anything rash.

    rc
     
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    My thoughts exactly....house fire perhaps, and the wood absorbed the smoke/odor. May need to dance another jig and put on some new furniture. That'll take care of the odor problem.
     
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    First of all what does it smell like?

    A strong smoke smell would raise concern on my part if the gun has been in a fire. Face it for $100.00 that gun has a questionable history.

    I would clean it first outdoors with kerosene or alcohol to get to bare metal and clean the wood and then triple my money by reselling it.
     
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    When I lived in the UK, I had a deactivated AKM that smelled like that; like it had been in a fire or had been sitting near a wood stove for a long time.

    I got rid of the smell by putting it through the dishwasher!

    I broke it down into as many pieces as possible and put it in the dishwasher.

    The dishwasher detergents stripped the metal parts of all oil and grease, which was what was holding the smell. I oiled it up and it smelled of brand new oil, nothing else.

    The dishwasher also stripped the stock of all of its finish.
    A lot of people warn against this, and I would normally use a less harsh method myself, but this was a desparate situation.
    Once stripped, 90% of the smell had gone from the wood. It seemed strongest on the bottom edge of the stock, so I sanded it a little to get down to fresh wood, which got rid of even more smell.
    I then sprayed all the wood with Frebreeze, and left it outside for a couple of days to air out (it was summer).
    The smell was almost all gone by that point, and when I applied a few coats of shellac, it disappeared forever.

    Hope that helps, I know how nauseating and pervasive the smell can be...
     
  17. beeenbag

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    rcmodel,

    I'll give it a whirl and see if it helps. The bluing and finish is perfect on this gun so I don't think it was in a house fire, if so, it was well away from any heat.

    The guy I bought it off of said he has had since it was bought new in 01. He is a smoker and lives in a small house trailer, im about 90% positive he heats it with a woodburning stove.
     
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    I'd say leave it. That's character IMO
     
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    What about taking the wood off and having it placed in a "hot tank" like what most automotive shops/engine building shops/etc might have for a little while?

    I think as others have stated, I'd focus more on the wood than the steel, though I might consider taking it apart and baking the metal parts in an oven at the lowest possible temp. I managed to pull a thread up about that here:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=166938

    edit: and the whole time I was reading this I couldn't help but think of the smelly car episode of Seinfeld:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pEhqiCD27E

    :)
     
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    Thats all well and good if he wants to remove every trace of stock finish right down to bare stripped wood.

    But I don't think he wants to do that quite yet.

    There are other less invasive things to try first before stripping all the finish off and starting over.

    rc
     
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    As stated in #11, spray it with Febreze and wipe it down. I would also completely remove the action and barrel from the stock, wipe down and oil the metal parts, scrub the wood with Murphy's Oil Soap, and then do the Febreze trick. The smell should be gone..
     
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    Ill deal with the smell or buy a ramline before I strip the stock down. Im a welder/fabricator, wood work is out of my expertise.
     
  23. blaisenguns

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    Well I find that guns that have been cold blued smell like cat urine, but that does not seem to be the case.

    I think dishwasher soaps have lye in them, I use that and hot water when cleaning BP guns, and when I use corrosive blanks. Don't let your gun sit with this stuff on it though, because it will destroy the finish. I would suggest completely disassembling the gun, and cleaning it like normal, then cleaning it with a powerful degreaser (RC Mentioned mineral spirits, I like TruStrip, or Everclear) then wash the gun out with hot water, then wipe down again with oil and reassemble. If it is stuck in the wood then it would likely go away if you sanded it down and re-finished it (MinWax products work OK). If you do all that you will have new gun smell :)
     
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    Im gonna hit the dollar store after work tomorrow and grab some fabreze. I believe the smell is in the wood, but just to be sure, I will separate the stock/forearm, from the receiver and barrel, put them in seperate rooms overnight and pin point the odor.
     
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    For a hundred bucks you got a ''steal''. Do what ever it takes to make you happy, but I'd shoot some black powder rounds through it to mark it with a nice ''new'' smell....
     
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