Stephen A. Camp
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Hello. Please let us know what you find. My "sample" on FNP9 reliability is just the one that I bought.
Best and thanks in advance.
Best and thanks in advance.
Firing the FNP9...
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crudmucosa
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Problems solved.
Hi,
Finally got out to shoot the FNP-9 again today. Much better experience this time!
Put 170 rounds of mixed ammo (UMC 115gr FMJ [gave me problems last time], Magtech 115gr FMJ, Speer GoldDot 115gr GDHP). Every round fired fine, only a few ejected cases back at me (as opposed to about half the rounds I shot the first time I took it out), and the slide locked back every time I ran empty (as opposed to almost never the first time).
Fine gun, that FNP. I guess it just needed a break-in period (I'm used to that with most of my other handguns, just wasn't used the kind of failures this gun was having out of the box).
Thanks for the help!
Hi,
Finally got out to shoot the FNP-9 again today. Much better experience this time!
Put 170 rounds of mixed ammo (UMC 115gr FMJ [gave me problems last time], Magtech 115gr FMJ, Speer GoldDot 115gr GDHP). Every round fired fine, only a few ejected cases back at me (as opposed to about half the rounds I shot the first time I took it out), and the slide locked back every time I ran empty (as opposed to almost never the first time).
Fine gun, that FNP. I guess it just needed a break-in period (I'm used to that with most of my other handguns, just wasn't used the kind of failures this gun was having out of the box).
Thanks for the help!
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crudmucosa
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Yeah, that would be cool.
The Cx4, S&W M&P, FN FNP, Walther/Smith P99, and Kimber's KPD are all kinda similar (thought the Cx4 uses a rotary lockup which is kind of whacky). I've read reviews of almost all of these with the exception of the KPD.
If anyone is willing to loan/buy me all of these guns I'd be happy to do a review
The Cx4, S&W M&P, FN FNP, Walther/Smith P99, and Kimber's KPD are all kinda similar (thought the Cx4 uses a rotary lockup which is kind of whacky). I've read reviews of almost all of these with the exception of the KPD.
If anyone is willing to loan/buy me all of these guns I'd be happy to do a review
solvability
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Is the FN a SSP category in IDPA?
crudmucosa
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Here's a copy and paste job from the rulebook:
I think the FNP fits into that category.
2. Stock Service Pistol Division (SSP)
Handguns permitted for use in this division must:
A. Be semi-automatic.
B. Be double action, double action only, or safe action (when
the trigger is pulled, the hammer/striker is cocked and then
released).
C. Be 9mm (9x19) or larger caliber.
D. Have a maximum unloaded weight of 39oz., including an
empty magazine. (Will be effective January 25, 2006)
E. Have a minimum annual production of 2000 units;
(discontinued models must have had a total production of
20,000 units).
F. Fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8”
with an empty magazine inserted.
G. Be loaded to the division capacity of ten (10) rounds in the
magazine plus one (1) round in the chamber. Should division
capacity not be achievable because of lower magazine
capacity, load to maximum mechanical capacity of magazine
plus one (1) round in the chamber. Competitors must use the
same capacity magazines through out the competition
20
(Example: if you start with a 9 round magazine, you must use
that capacity magazine throughout the match).
H. Begin hammer down for selective DA/SA pistols.
Handguns permitted for use in this division must:
A. Be semi-automatic.
B. Be double action, double action only, or safe action (when
the trigger is pulled, the hammer/striker is cocked and then
released).
C. Be 9mm (9x19) or larger caliber.
D. Have a maximum unloaded weight of 39oz., including an
empty magazine. (Will be effective January 25, 2006)
E. Have a minimum annual production of 2000 units;
(discontinued models must have had a total production of
20,000 units).
F. Fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8”
with an empty magazine inserted.
G. Be loaded to the division capacity of ten (10) rounds in the
magazine plus one (1) round in the chamber. Should division
capacity not be achievable because of lower magazine
capacity, load to maximum mechanical capacity of magazine
plus one (1) round in the chamber. Competitors must use the
same capacity magazines through out the competition
20
(Example: if you start with a 9 round magazine, you must use
that capacity magazine throughout the match).
H. Begin hammer down for selective DA/SA pistols.
I think the FNP fits into that category.
After shooting my friends FNP-9 (His is like the one pictured that Clean97GTI wants to trade for, All black with Silver Barrel, Mag Release Button, Slide Lock, and De-Cocker) It was Sweet I was nocking down soup cans easy at a little over 10 yards. Mine acme ALL BLACK like MMMike's. It must have come off the assembly line just before or after crudmucosa's cuz I have had the same problems:
crudmucosa said:
"I've put 100 rounds worth of Remington/UMC 115gr. FMJ ammo and had consistent malfunctions with the last couple of rounds (14-16 when I used fully charged magazines). The malfunctions were failure to feed/chamber (rounds would get stuck half chambered up the feed ramp). This happened with all three magazines. Also, ejection was pretty much straight back into my face (it wasn't too bad, but it was annoying). Has anyone else had this issue?"
Mine is ejecting more than 50% at my face one caught me just below the eye. Thank goodness for eye protection, has had numerous Fails to fully feed on #15 (usually #14, #15 or last bullet in 16rd mag) and the Slide lock does not fully engage with notch frequently after last round either allowing slide to close or when new mag is popped in it self chambers.
What the "If You See Kay". A very frustrating first experiance with this Handgun.
I studied and compared (with the slide off) my FNP-9 and my buddies. I have noticed a couple things. Not sure if all are related to my problems but suspicious and interesting.
Forgive me now, if I am not using the correct "terms" for the parts but here goes:
If I insert an empty mag in the gun I can see that the black plastic "Bullet Bed" inside the mag is what lifts the Slide Stop Lever to a "full up position" thus locking the slide open after the last round. However if I depress the "Bullet Bed" down a little and then release the bullet bed, the Slide Stop Lever does not came back to a "full up position" as it does if you insert an empty mag. I suspect this could be connected with the failure to feed on Rd #16 (but what about #14 & #15) and the failure of the Slide Stop lever to fully engage the slide after the last round. Causing some not open after last rounds and the self chambering when the next mag is popped in. My buddies comes all the way back up after depressing the "Bullet Bed" a little. This happens with all 3 - 16 round Mags his was a 10 Round. My conclusion is Weak springs in the mags or too strong Slide Stop Lever Spring. (just realized I need to try his 10 rd mag in my frame and my 16 rd Mags in his) any comments or thoughts?
Next his Barrel is notched/ beveled on the bottom on one side of the radiused protrusion.
His Recoils Spring is Blue, mine is Orange.
Quite a few pieces of the Fire Control Housing are different in his and mine. If I remember correctly the Sear and the Trigger Bar Disconnect Lever for example. The feel of his Decock lever is almost a 2 stage with a click to it. Mine feels smooth consistent.
FYI, I did clean the gun before taking it out the first time and have cleaned after and still have the Slide Stop Issue described above.
FYI, I shot more than a 100 rounds this first time with it. As I recall the last 3 - 16 rounders had no Fail to Feed problems but still Straight Back Ejects. More "Break In Time" required????
Crudmucosa said:
"Put 170 rounds of mixed ammo (UMC 115gr FMJ [gave me problems last time], Magtech 115gr FMJ, Speer GoldDot 115gr GDHP). Every round fired fine, only a few ejected cases back at me (as opposed to about half the rounds I shot the first time I took it out), and the slide locked back every time I ran empty (as opposed to almost never the first time).
Fine gun, that FNP. I guess it just needed a break-in period (I'm used to that with most of my other handguns, just wasn't used the kind of failures this gun was having out of the box)."
I guess I will need to try some other ammo as crudmucosa did, but MY buddy and I were both feeing the same exact ammo in our guns his was fine, mine was not, and any eject in the face is unacceptable to me.
Send the S.O.B. Back??? wouldn't ya know this would happen to my first new gun purchase off the Internet. $$$$$$ Time.....
Would appreciate your thoughts comments....PM me
crudmucosa said:
"I've put 100 rounds worth of Remington/UMC 115gr. FMJ ammo and had consistent malfunctions with the last couple of rounds (14-16 when I used fully charged magazines). The malfunctions were failure to feed/chamber (rounds would get stuck half chambered up the feed ramp). This happened with all three magazines. Also, ejection was pretty much straight back into my face (it wasn't too bad, but it was annoying). Has anyone else had this issue?"
Mine is ejecting more than 50% at my face one caught me just below the eye. Thank goodness for eye protection, has had numerous Fails to fully feed on #15 (usually #14, #15 or last bullet in 16rd mag) and the Slide lock does not fully engage with notch frequently after last round either allowing slide to close or when new mag is popped in it self chambers.
What the "If You See Kay". A very frustrating first experiance with this Handgun.
I studied and compared (with the slide off) my FNP-9 and my buddies. I have noticed a couple things. Not sure if all are related to my problems but suspicious and interesting.
Forgive me now, if I am not using the correct "terms" for the parts but here goes:
If I insert an empty mag in the gun I can see that the black plastic "Bullet Bed" inside the mag is what lifts the Slide Stop Lever to a "full up position" thus locking the slide open after the last round. However if I depress the "Bullet Bed" down a little and then release the bullet bed, the Slide Stop Lever does not came back to a "full up position" as it does if you insert an empty mag. I suspect this could be connected with the failure to feed on Rd #16 (but what about #14 & #15) and the failure of the Slide Stop lever to fully engage the slide after the last round. Causing some not open after last rounds and the self chambering when the next mag is popped in. My buddies comes all the way back up after depressing the "Bullet Bed" a little. This happens with all 3 - 16 round Mags his was a 10 Round. My conclusion is Weak springs in the mags or too strong Slide Stop Lever Spring. (just realized I need to try his 10 rd mag in my frame and my 16 rd Mags in his) any comments or thoughts?
Next his Barrel is notched/ beveled on the bottom on one side of the radiused protrusion.
His Recoils Spring is Blue, mine is Orange.
Quite a few pieces of the Fire Control Housing are different in his and mine. If I remember correctly the Sear and the Trigger Bar Disconnect Lever for example. The feel of his Decock lever is almost a 2 stage with a click to it. Mine feels smooth consistent.
FYI, I did clean the gun before taking it out the first time and have cleaned after and still have the Slide Stop Issue described above.
FYI, I shot more than a 100 rounds this first time with it. As I recall the last 3 - 16 rounders had no Fail to Feed problems but still Straight Back Ejects. More "Break In Time" required????
Crudmucosa said:
"Put 170 rounds of mixed ammo (UMC 115gr FMJ [gave me problems last time], Magtech 115gr FMJ, Speer GoldDot 115gr GDHP). Every round fired fine, only a few ejected cases back at me (as opposed to about half the rounds I shot the first time I took it out), and the slide locked back every time I ran empty (as opposed to almost never the first time).
Fine gun, that FNP. I guess it just needed a break-in period (I'm used to that with most of my other handguns, just wasn't used the kind of failures this gun was having out of the box)."
I guess I will need to try some other ammo as crudmucosa did, but MY buddy and I were both feeing the same exact ammo in our guns his was fine, mine was not, and any eject in the face is unacceptable to me.
Send the S.O.B. Back??? wouldn't ya know this would happen to my first new gun purchase off the Internet. $$$$$$ Time.....
Would appreciate your thoughts comments....PM me
Just bought an FNP-9. Recoil is terrible.
In response to Clean97GTI:
"We bought some mil-surp 9mm at a gun show and went shooting the next day. She actually wanted me to shoot first and I was happy to oblige. The gun felt very natural in the hand, recoil was on par with most other plastic 9mm weapons I've fired. No feed and no ejection problems. Double tap drills are a joy with this gun.
I don't have the targets anymore, but at 7 and 10 yards, it wasn't difficult at all to keep them in the head of an evil silhouette target.
What really impressed me is how comfortable my ex was with the gun. She immediately took to it, all the controls were within easy reach for her. The recoil was soft enough that she didn't complain and was able to be accurate on torso shots. A great gun overall. I'd purchase it over any other poly-framed semi-compact currently on the market."
I just bought the FNP-9 DA/SA in the Stainless two-tone. It's a beautiful gun, and I was excited to take it to the range for the first time. It fits really nice in the hand, and handles well. I have about 150 rounds through it with two trips to the range. Both times I shot it I had no issues with misfeeds, or jams. However, the recoil on mine is ridiculous for a 9mm. With other polymer handguns I've shot such as the Glock 19 and HK USP Full Size I've had no trouble with the recoil or shooting sub 1 inch groups at 5-7 yards. I can't try hard enough to manage the recoil and keep my FNP groupings 4 inches or less at the same 5-7 yards.
Now I'm not trying to take anything away from the FNP, and this seems to be an uncommon issue from what I've been reading.
My girlfriend has gone to the range with me and shot my full size Taurus PT1911 in .45, and is more scared to shoot my FNP-9mm. Any advice? Has anyone ever come across this issue?
Considering trading this gun for a Glock 19...
In response to Clean97GTI:
"We bought some mil-surp 9mm at a gun show and went shooting the next day. She actually wanted me to shoot first and I was happy to oblige. The gun felt very natural in the hand, recoil was on par with most other plastic 9mm weapons I've fired. No feed and no ejection problems. Double tap drills are a joy with this gun.
I don't have the targets anymore, but at 7 and 10 yards, it wasn't difficult at all to keep them in the head of an evil silhouette target.
What really impressed me is how comfortable my ex was with the gun. She immediately took to it, all the controls were within easy reach for her. The recoil was soft enough that she didn't complain and was able to be accurate on torso shots. A great gun overall. I'd purchase it over any other poly-framed semi-compact currently on the market."
I just bought the FNP-9 DA/SA in the Stainless two-tone. It's a beautiful gun, and I was excited to take it to the range for the first time. It fits really nice in the hand, and handles well. I have about 150 rounds through it with two trips to the range. Both times I shot it I had no issues with misfeeds, or jams. However, the recoil on mine is ridiculous for a 9mm. With other polymer handguns I've shot such as the Glock 19 and HK USP Full Size I've had no trouble with the recoil or shooting sub 1 inch groups at 5-7 yards. I can't try hard enough to manage the recoil and keep my FNP groupings 4 inches or less at the same 5-7 yards.
Now I'm not trying to take anything away from the FNP, and this seems to be an uncommon issue from what I've been reading.
My girlfriend has gone to the range with me and shot my full size Taurus PT1911 in .45, and is more scared to shoot my FNP-9mm. Any advice? Has anyone ever come across this issue?
Considering trading this gun for a Glock 19...
rellascout
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I have no problems with mine.... I consider it a soft shooter...
What type of grip are you using?
What type of grip are you using?
HoosierQ
Member
I never see these things. I didn't make not of where you all were from but I have yet to see one of these in person here in Central Indiana. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough...which is true. I am kind of wanting to see the FNP 45 especially.
Spyvie
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+1
Mine shoots like butter...
Texastbird
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Endyo, I have a PT1911 and a FNP40 and my wife likes to shoot both weapons, with the .40S&W having a little more "pop" to it. In 9mm I would have thought it would be a real pussycat to shoot. Do you think it might have a weak recoil spring?
Why is it that the Browning version has a safety and can be carried cocked and locked but the FN version can't? I always thought they were exactly the same except for the name on the slide?
I've got an FNP-9M, I really like it, it has been completely reliable for me so far and is a very good size for carry. Also the sights seem to line themselves up very naturally and easily, and I do like the SA trigger quite a bit. The DA trigger is about the best of my DA/SA guns as well.
I've got an FNP-9M, I really like it, it has been completely reliable for me so far and is a very good size for carry. Also the sights seem to line themselves up very naturally and easily, and I do like the SA trigger quite a bit. The DA trigger is about the best of my DA/SA guns as well.
I recently purchased the fnp45. I liked the idea of 3 14 round mags included and the da/sa is a plus. The metal tabs on the poly frame are much thicker and longer than the tabs on my glock 20. Shoots great as long as I do not compare it to my 1911 kimber.
crudmucosa
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I've gotta say that my FNP 9 is one of the softest shooting pistols I own using most any load I put through it. I've trained folks of all sizes using the FNP and none have had any recoil issues. It has some reliability issues if I don't clean it and the shooter limp-wrists it, but otherwise, it is accurate and pretty much runs like a clock.
I thought about getting an FNP 45 awhile back (I am a big fan of the .45 ACP; 1911's are my favorite handgun). When I laid eyes upon and then tried to get my dainty little hand around it, thoughts of buying went right out of the window! That piece is /huge/! Read good reviews though.
I thought about getting an FNP 45 awhile back (I am a big fan of the .45 ACP; 1911's are my favorite handgun). When I laid eyes upon and then tried to get my dainty little hand around it, thoughts of buying went right out of the window! That piece is /huge/! Read good reviews though.
Spyvie
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The Browning was discontinued quite a while ago. It had a safety and there were some differences with the sear setup along with a few other things. There is a current USP version of the FNP with a safety, but I've never had a chance to play with one.
Using the stock grips. I've also considered that it may be an issue on the internal parts...maybe the recoil spring or something along those lines. I've called FN Herstal USA twice this week left a message both times, and still no response.
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but I already have a Glock 19 coming in the mail. Got it for $530 shipped + Four 15 rd mags. : )
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but I already have a Glock 19 coming in the mail. Got it for $530 shipped + Four 15 rd mags. : )
ReelFaith
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So, I have a Springfield XDM 9mm and love it. How does the FN-9 compare? Is $470 a good price for this model? Do I even need another 9mm or should I buy another 45 or a soon to be banned variant?
I know this is an old thread that I'm reviving.
I recently picked up a new FNP9 for $399 for my mother(she babysits my 1y/o when I'm working on night shift. figured she could use some night stand gun when she is in my house with noone else around).
I love everything about this weapon. Infact, so much so that I think I'm gonna get a dual tone version for myself. Its accurate, great trigger, and fits hand nicely.
Just wonderful weapon for great price. don't understand why more people don't have it.
My only issue - and really annoying one at that - is that it spits empties back straight to my forehead. about one in 3~4 rds.
Important thing is that its ejecting, and loading the next round. But when it hits my forehead, it HURTS!
And my mother would never want to train with this weapon if I can't fix that.
So do any of you figured out whats the issue with that?
I recently picked up a new FNP9 for $399 for my mother(she babysits my 1y/o when I'm working on night shift. figured she could use some night stand gun when she is in my house with noone else around).
I love everything about this weapon. Infact, so much so that I think I'm gonna get a dual tone version for myself. Its accurate, great trigger, and fits hand nicely.
Just wonderful weapon for great price. don't understand why more people don't have it.
My only issue - and really annoying one at that - is that it spits empties back straight to my forehead. about one in 3~4 rds.
Important thing is that its ejecting, and loading the next round. But when it hits my forehead, it HURTS!
And my mother would never want to train with this weapon if I can't fix that.
So do any of you figured out whats the issue with that?
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