First AR Build

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  1. ExAgoradzo

    ExAgoradzo Member

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    @MistWolf
    I understand your point.
    I’m tempted to just go iron sights with my S&W until I can afford something better. I am spending ALL my mad money for sometime on this build.

    Greg
     
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    There is no such thing as a “pistol upper” since there’s no length limit on a pistol. Any length upper will work. (At least under federal law, I have no idea about CA law.)
     
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    The question would be if CA law requires a lower to be engraved or otherwise marked “Pistol” from the onset. When I say “pistol upper” I mean to say upper with barrel under 16” in length, commonly referred to as a “pistol upper” or “pistol length upper”.
     
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    I understood what you meant, I’m just saying that you don’t need to use a short upper to make it legally be a pistol per federal law. If you build an AR without a stock (and without a vertical foregrip) it’s a pistol no matter the barrel length is. There is no length limit for a pistol.
     
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    If you have not yet purchased the upper, get the enhanced upper and whatever Handguard you like, more material for extra stiffness that should translate into accuracy potential

    make sure you put a good trigger in it, you and your son will never regret an expensive trigger
     
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  6. DustyGmt

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    +1 on a trigger upgrade. I have 1 AR left with a stock trigger and you never really notice how bad a mil spec trigger is until you feel install a geissele or Larue on a rifle. They will cost between $90-$200 but if you want a worthwhile upgrade for next to nothing the PSA EPT is like $40 and it's honestly great, especially after a couple hundred round break in. Huge improvement over stock trigs...
     
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    I wish people would stop calling it a “build”. Unless you use a mill, surface grinder, lathe, and other devises, you’re assembling. Not building.
     
  8. ExAgoradzo

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    Yes.

    Im a language guy as well. Using words correctly is crucial: note how the progressives [sic] have taken over our society with their linguistic lies (e.g. tolerance).

    Except, this is how that word is used in this subculture. So, note taken: but that’s a fight I don’t want. I come here because I feel that I am among people I agree with and don’t need another fight. I prob wouldn’t have posted this one either except I already got enough this week...

    Merry Christmas,
    Greg
     
  9. Theohazard

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    From Merriam-Webster:

    “BUILD:
    1: to form by ordering and uniting materials by gradual means into a composite whole: CONSTRUCT”

    My 6-year old daughter and I “build” LEGO sets. Does that imply that we cast the plastic pieces ourselves? I just “built” a block tower with my 18-month-old. Does that imply that we made the actual blocks? Before the day is over, my 6-year-old will probably “build” a fort in the living room. I can assure you that she’s not knitting the blankets or making the chairs. “Build” is a perfectly good word to describe assembling an AR-15.
     
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    Pics, or it didn't happen!
     
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    It's a colloquial term. I'ts not like most people referring to their "builds" are trying to purport that they actually machined all the pieces from scratch or something. When you "assemble" a "build" kit you've completed a "build".

    "Build" is the term in common use and if there was a better term to use for it maybe you should explain what that should be and why.

    ETA: Most hobbyists who assemble things from kits of individual parts and pieces refer to their finished work as "builds". Like I said, it's just the term in common use and is not inaccurate. Most here understand the difference between an assembled build from a kit and a Smith machining and building from scratch. Context is key.
     
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    “Manufacture” describes making parts and items from raw materials.

    “Building” describes using those parts / items into a product used for specific purposes.

    “Assemble” means putting finished parts / items together.

    So companies manufacture the parts needed to build a AR-15. Another company or individual buys the parts to build the complete components for a AR-15. The end user assembles the components into a complete product.
     
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