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Five Year Plan for Banning Guns

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  1. Norton

    Norton Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    "Why would an honest person even want a gun?"

    by Alan Korwin, Author
    Gun Laws of America

    It's time to remember what the Democrat party generally seeks
    regarding guns and gun rights. The list below was widely circulated
    while Clinton was in power. (This list and more is available at my
    website, http://www.gunlaws.com.

    The democrat-backed Brady group and similar outfits have been quiet
    about guns because they want to win the election, and impose their
    goals on your rights --


    1. National Licensing of all handgun purchases.

    2. Licenses for Rifle and Shotgun owners.

    3. State Licenses for ownership of firearms.

    4. Arsenal Licenses (5 guns and 250 rounds of ammunition).

    5. Arsenal License Fees (at least $300.00, with a cap of $1,000.00).

    6. Limits on Arsenal Licensing (None in counties with populations of
    more than 200,000).

    7. Requirement of Federally Approved Storage Safes for all guns.

    8. Inspection License. (Gun safe licenses, yearly fee for spot

    9. Ban on Manufacturing in counties with a population of more than

    10. Banning all military style firearms.

    11. Banning Machine Gun Parts or parts which can be used in a Machine


    12. Banning the carrying a firearm anywhere but home or target range
    or in transit from one to the other.

    13. Banning replacement parts (manufacturing, sale, possession,
    transfer, installation) except barrel, trigger group.

    14. Elimination of the Curio Relic list.

    15. Control of Ammunition belonging to Certain Surplus Firearms.
    (7.62x54R and .303).

    16. Eventual Ban of Handgun Possession..

    17. Banning of Any ammo that fits military guns (post 1945).

    18. Banning of any quantity of smokeless powder or black powder which

    would constitute more than the equivalent of 100 rounds of

    19. Ban the possession of explosive powders of more than 1 kg. at any

    one time.

    20. Banning of High Powered Ammo or Wounding ammo.

    21. A National License for Ammunition.

    22. Banning or strict licensing of all re-loading components.

    23. National Registration of ammunition or ammo buyers.

    24. Requirements of special storage safe for ammunition and

    25. Restricting Gun Ranges to counties with populations less than

    26. Special Licensing of ranges.

    27. Special Range Tax to visitors. ($85.00 per visit per person).

    28. Waiting period for rentals on pistol ranges.

    29. Banning Gun Shows.

    30. Banning of military reenactments.


    Ban of all clips holding over 6 bullets.

    Elimination of the Dept. of Civilian Marksmanship.

    Ban on all realistic replica and toy guns (including "air soft" and

    The right of gun-violence victims to sue, with financial assistance
    from government programs, the gun manufacturers.

    Taxes on ammo, dealers, guns, licenses to offset medical costs to

    The eventual ban on all semi-automatics regardless of when made or

    While it's true Republicans haven't done very much to defend your gun

    rights (OK, they have done a little) in six years of control, they
    offer no support for the anti-rights disarm-the-public plans the left

    wing will impose on you if they gain power in the next election. It's

    your choice. Do you stay home and evaporate your rights, or go out
    and defend them at the ballot box? Tell your friends.

    If you took the bait and voted early, instead of rising up as a whole

    and voting on election day like you're supposed to, this message is
    too late and you got screwed.

    Thanks for reading.
    Alan Korwin, Author
    Gun Laws of America

    Permission to circulate this message gladly granted.

    What would happen if Washington, Jefferson and Franklin suddenly
    found themselves in modern times? Read "Tempus Fugit" --A stunning
    achievement, eye-popping entertainment, critical thinking at its
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  2. Phenom

    Phenom Member

    Jul 22, 2006
    I seriously doubt all of that will happen. I can understand a good steel cabinet or safe. I do think people should do some studying before loading a firearm with ammunition. I really don't think they're going to ban airsoft as there's no paperwork required to purhase such items.
  3. Manedwolf

    Manedwolf member

    Nov 10, 2005
    New Hampshire
    BATFE got more power, plus its E, in 2002, while both houses of Congress and the WH were controlled by Republicans.

    If you only look at one side as the enemy and turn a blind eye to the other, you might be surprised when that side you're not watching sucker-punches you.
  4. kfranz

    kfranz Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Remember, gun control laws are not about guns, they are about control. If you'd like to step inside the mindset, read on....

  5. Kentak

    Kentak Member

    Jan 6, 2006
    Without credible citation the five-year plan is just another conspiracy theory.

  6. kfranz

    kfranz Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Much of what's listed in the "5 year plan" has already been proposed at one time or another. Is it an actual list that gun grabbers are working from? Probably not.
  7. Otherguy Overby

    Otherguy Overby member

    May 8, 2004
    Refrigerator box
    What does history show us? Lessee: There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. One should also take into consideration the firearm law lunacy in California and other blue states. Those same politicians would love to see their agenda applied nationwide. The current illegal efforts of Mike "mayor" Bloomberg are an excellent example.

    I, personally, have been subject to this anti-gun legistlation. One day I was a legal, law abiding citizen, one day later I was a felon under California law. This was just for owning a once legal SKS (D model) with a detachable magazine, legally bought in CA, .

    There really is a vast left wing conspiracy. The vast "right wing" conspiracy is non existant and just projection by the left.

    The only way to stop the left from trying to get the guns from our cold dead hands is to make their minds cold and dead first.
  8. wingman

    wingman Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    In my opinion private gun ownership will end within next 20 years simply due to an out of control population growth crime/shooting will increase to a point that the general public will request government to do something. I do not agree with it but in terms of numbers it's coming.:(
  9. MD_Willington

    MD_Willington Member

    Oct 13, 2005
    Canuck in SE WA State.
    Sounds like they read the Canadian gun laws and thought, "Boy howdy this looks good"..

    **que retard on porch with banjo**
  10. Justin

    Justin Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 29, 2002
    Agreed. He really needs to cite a source. Just running down a list of a bunch of anti-rights proposals and claiming it came from the Brady camp doesn't cut it.

    He either needs to have a link to a document on their website, a copy of an internal HCI document or memo, video of a speech containing this information, or other proof that this really did come from them.

    Just saying it is doesn't make it so.
  11. Declaration Day

    Declaration Day Member

    Feb 25, 2004
    Redford, Michigan
    Click on this link which was posted above, and pay attention to the photo on the first page:


    It shows an "illegal" toy gun with a real revolver, and asks if you can tell the difference.

    My answer is yes.

    However, I can see where someone might say no, given that the picture is low-res, black and white, and dimly lit. :rolleyes:
  12. progunner1957

    progunner1957 member

    Nov 14, 2004
    A wolf living in Sheeple land
    "Turn them all in..."

    This 5 year plan surfaced during the years of the Clinton regieme and was a cover story in an issue of Guns & Ammo magazine. I will see if I still have that issue on hand so I can give you all the month and year of it so you can go look it up for yourselves.

    This is not just another conspiracy theory - this is the wet dream of the antigun bigots. You can never turn your back on these people and never let them get in a position of political power.

    Don't ever forget what Feinstein said: "If I could have gotten 51 votes for it in the Senate - Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all (guns) in, I would have done it..."
  13. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Hasn't crime been declining? How will crime/shootings increase? I guess you mean media coverage of said events.
  14. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Member

    Sep 8, 2005
    Get real, people.

    If you vote Democrat, that's what you're voting FOR.

    I understand the urge to vote AGAINST something, but that's part of what you're voting FOR.

    Ditto if you vote Libertarian, right now, because there is simply no chance for a victory on any level above small-town councils.

    Think the GOP, which I dislike in many ways, has done nothing for your gun rights by just keeping quiet, letting the AWB expire, passing the law against confiscation (signed yesterday), and passing CCW in various states?

    If you think that, your ignorance saddens me.

    I am a registered Libertarian and I've volunteered only for Libertarian campaigns. That doesn't mean I want to cut off my nose to spite my face.
  15. 'Card

    'Card Member

    Feb 20, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    Any time anyone on this forum makes a reference to something negative about our side of the 2A debate, we demand specific sources and some sort of evidence. Accepting this list without verification just because it reinforces our existing beliefs would be pretty hypocritical, don't you think?

    Sorry, but I don't buy that one. Believing in a left wing conspiracy would require me to believe that liberals have the intellect, self-discipline, and faculties required to organize anything - and that's just too big of an imaginary leap for me to take. To make the whole idea even more far-fetched, being part of a conspiracy requires that you keep your mouth shut about it. How many liberals do you know who are capable of keeping their mouth shut about something?

    As Will Rogers said "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
  16. BigFatKen

    BigFatKen Member

    Dec 5, 2005
    Auburn, AL
    some can't be done....on purpose

    Powder is not sold in small enough cans to load < 100 5.56mm rounds. You cannot mark bullets. You cannot make a autolaoder which headstamps with a micro stamp.

    Any of these are gun removal tools. The GCA '68 required a serial number. It killed a single shot .22LR that was a common Point of Purchase sale item for $9.95. It did not pay to add a serial number which added $5.

    Canada just made a big list of serial nunbers. They did not understand that a number is almost useless. There are hundreds of new models with serial numbers 1-500 on collectors guns.

    Telling a Districk Attorney a Winchester 94 is serial number 399, for example, is useless. There are dozens. (hundreds)
  17. Jorg Nysgerrig

    Jorg Nysgerrig Member

    Apr 13, 2006
    5 years? Try 50 years, at least.

    However, for those who think that the government will just up and ban guns one day, this should serve as an reminder of how it would more likely go down. Just a little bit here and there.

    I did find what appears to be a more complete version, however, I can't attest to the veracity:
  18. Otherguy Overby

    Otherguy Overby member

    May 8, 2004
    Refrigerator box
    Sorry, but you appear to be basing your opinion of leftists on our current crop of moonbats who can't run their mouths and brains at the same time. It hasn't always been like this. In the old days (early 1900s) conspirators keep their mouths shut. It's how we got central banking. Why do you suppose there's a "Federal Reserve" room at the Jekyl Island resort? And the income tax came along at the same time because the state's votes on the amendment were fraudulently verified. These were very smart people who accomplished this.

    The 1934 National Firearms Act was the result of a conspiracy to do an end run on our second amendment rights. The idea came from the way the Harrison Narcotics Act was created as a way around the constitution.

    Don't be distracted by loonies, there still are very smart people who've no qualms about letting useful idiots do the heavy lifting. George Soros can't be doing so much with money alone, he's got help (conspirators) and they are really determined.

    It should occur to you that our current form of government can no longer function without polititians conspiring amongst themselves and others.

    Paranoia is a survival trait.
  19. longeyes

    longeyes member

    Dec 25, 2002
    True West...Hotel California
    Any "five-year plan" in today's world is giddy optimism.

    We'd all be speaking Minoan now if they hadn't built their civilization on an active volcano.
  20. G36-UK

    G36-UK Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    Bo'ness, Scotland
    I think I can improve that list a little:

    31. The repeal of all the above.

    32. The repeal of the ban on new machineguns.

    33. All anti-gun groups and people who voted for the first 30 arrested on treason charges.

    34. The death penalty reinstated for treason.

    35. All those from 33 found guilty of treason.

    36. Execution by firing squad.

    37. ON TO BRITAIN!!!....ahem.
  21. Fosbery

    Fosbery Member

    Jun 21, 2006
    Great Britain
    Perhaps an exchange is in order? The US can send all the antis to Britain and Britain can send all the pros to the US :D
  22. Phenom

    Phenom Member

    Jul 22, 2006
    Tell me, just how are they going to get the gun I was born with between my legs:confused: Gun is just a generic term. Banning replicas would mean banning squirt guns, cap guns and so forth, there's trillions out there. Banning of firearms is possible but unlikely;)
  23. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Member

    Oct 11, 2003

    Ignore anyone who tries to pierce that fantasy. Whatever helps you get through the day is a good thing. Imaginary friends can also be comforting.

    When you have a moment why not write the California Attorney General to explain your understanding so that he makes "a good steel cabinet" acceptable instead of a safe under that state's "Dangerous Weapons Control Law": http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/12087.htm That silly Attorney General and the incompetent California legislature got it all wrong even though it is clearly in your mind. They also have some pretty stiff standards for gun safes.

    I'm glad that you say "they can't." I'd be even gladder if "they didn't," but unfortunately "they do."

    One of the saddest aspects of human life is that each generation seems compelled to relearn the lessons that previous generations paid dearly to learn.
  24. Phenom

    Phenom Member

    Jul 22, 2006
    I also said safe in my post too. Why the heck would I want to write that joker?
  25. SomeKid

    SomeKid Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Who is this moron? Voting early HELPS some of us get to vote.
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