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Fl ccw requirements

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 351 WINCHESTER, Mar 23, 2012.

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  1. 351 WINCHESTER

    351 WINCHESTER Member

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    I heard today that one is not required to qualify with a handgun to get a ccw in Fl which I find somewhat disturbing. Did I hear wrong or is this fact?
     
  2. olderguns

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    No you don't Have to use a handgun.. you Hunters Education or Armed services card will prove you have the Knowledge to safely carry a gun... Don't know that I fully agree with that, seeing some of the people who carry (they are not safe at all)
     
  3. browningguy

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    My dad and step mother (both 78 years old) just got their FL CHL, they had to shoot 1 round through a .22 revolver, and hit anywhere on the target.
     
  4. dogmush

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    There is no specific range requirement for FL's CCW. Many of the classes that fulfill the training requirement will have a range portion, some longer then others, but it's not a state requirement.

    As an aside, what other fundamental rights do you feel should be subject to competency tests? Voting? Speech? ...Life?
     
  5. brboyer

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    There is no requirement that you fire a gun, however you must prove competency by:

    Some folks (even some instructors) erroneously believe that you must fire a gun, you don't. They think this because of this:
     
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    In Washington state there is no training requirement at all. Pay your fee, submit your fingerprints, get a CPL.

    Since several states require no training at all to carry a gun without any problems associated with that, upon what facts do you base your discomfort or is it just an emotional reaction? Or is it that people who apply for the Florida license are that much less responsible and/or capable than people who carry guns in all the states that have no training requirement?
     
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    You are not required to complete any range time for the UT course either. There's a range near me that offers both (UT and FL) and I'm thinking of taking the two for combo. Gotta have something since my wretched state doesn't allow me to carry, and I don't see it happening anytime soon. At least this way I can carry in other states.
     
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    Once again we resort to absurdities. But here you go, voting is regulated by age, speech is regulated in many ways, but let's not bother discussing the absurdity of a competency test for being alive.
     
  9. dogmush

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    I wasn't resorting to absurdities, I was asking a question. The OP asked about qualifying with a handgun. That's why I specified a competency test, as opposed to just restrictions (like age). We could have a discussion about just having restrictions, but my question was predicated on the inherently more subjective idea of competency. (i.e. you are either 18 or you're not, but what level of skill is "good enough", and who gets to decide that)

    I asked that to try and draw the OP in to a discussion on who gets to decide the level of skill needed to exercise a right. It's been my experience that many folks that are in favor of the government deciding minimum skill needed to exercise right haven't fully thought the ramifications of that one through, so I was hoping to elicit some discussion from the OP on that front. This being a discussion board and all.

    If you feel it's an absurd discussion feel free to remove yourself from it, I promise not to be offended at your lack of participation.
     
  10. Yoda

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    You DO have to fire a GUN

    A shop was shut down in Destin, Florida, for issuing certifications for CCW when all the instructor asked his students to do was shoot some AirSoft rounds at the end of his class. I believe that all the certificates of course completion were disallowed, and their CCW licenses were revoked.

    - - - Yoda
     
  11. 1894

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    When I took my class years ago (yes, FL), all we were "required," to do was discharge one round safely downrange. But, the instructor let us send as many as we wanted;)

    While it does give me pause, this is closer to, "shall not be infringed," than many other places and one of the reasons I love The Sunshine State.
     
  12. brboyer

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    Doubt it.
    Care to supply us with a link to a news story or other citation for this story?

    There is no requirement to fire a firearm to receive a CWFL in Florida. The statute is quoted above.
     
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    Can't give you a link

    "Care to give us a link?"

    Nope. My knowledge is based on being there and talking with the owner. I also don't bother to look things up for rude posters.

    If there was no requirement for the instructor to actually observe a student fire a real gun, then a lot of the CCW classes at gun shows wouldn't bother having the students shoot a reduced-charge round into a phone book before they got their certificate of training.

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    My Retired military ID card was sufficient for the exemption as was my wife's DD-214. I don't feel that their needs to be a "class" for CCW. I think that the whole permit process is just another TAX that the State imposes on us for something that the 2A already grants us....my 2 cents ;)
     
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    I got my non-resident FL CCW by submitting fingerprints, DD214, picture, application and money by mail. OR required a CCW course that hit on the CCW laws mostly, nothing very deep and little if any instruction in actual firearm handling.
    I'm of mixed opinion about required training for a CCW permit. First of course because I find the idea of a permit goes against the 2nd. On the other hand I would like to think that people who get a CCW permit have some knowledge of how to use their weapon and what the laws are about using deadly force.
     
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    The law in Florida is about addressing safety skills, knowledge, and, to some extent, the legal aspects of using deadly force in self-defense. It is not about marksmanship. However, the "door" is open to a licensee seeking further training if he/she so desires, just as any newly-licensed driver can go on to seek courses in performance or defensive driving (neither of which is required to actually get the license in the first place.)
     
  17. brboyer

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    So the 'owner' of a gunstore (you said 'shop' so I assume it was a gunstore) said his business was shut down because of something an instructor did (even if the instructor was the owner). Unless of course this 'shop' was some kind of training shop and not a gun dealer.

    One thing has nothing to do with the other: A FFL selling guns and an instructor teaching CWFL classes.

    Oh, and if the shop was shut down how were you there?


    BTW: The NRA Home Firearm Safety Course qualifies as proof of comptency for a CWFL:
    Here is a course description from the NRA website for this course:
    Perhaps you could explain how a non-firing class qualifies for a CWFL? ...or not :rolleyes:
     
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