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Flash suppressed powder recommendations?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by chrisf8657, May 21, 2020.

  1. chrisf8657

    chrisf8657 Member

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    Hi guys,


    I’m looking for a flash suppressed or low flash powder for SD loads that can achieve the following velocities (which I’ve done using regular flash bulb in your face powders):


    9mm +p 124g gdhp 1250fps glock

    357 magnum 158g 1175fps medium load 4in revolver

    38 special +p 125g hp 1075fps 4in revolver


    I have found ram shot silhouette excellent for 45 acp +p 230g gdhp at 950fps (their load data) out of a 1911.


    I am perfectly fine using 3 or 4 different powders.


    Thanks guys!
     
  2. rfwobbly

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    For pistol.... Alliant BE-86 and VihtaVuori N340
     
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    1250 is pushing a 124 pretty hard even allowing + P, IMO.
    Would need to be something slow like 3N37, but anything slow enough to get you close is probably not low flash....
     
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    Walkalong and a few others posted in a similar thread and said promo was good. Never tried it myself.
     
  5. Steve C

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    Bullseye 86 (previously mentioned) is the only powder I have seen that is advertised as having a flash suppressant in included. https://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/be-86.aspx

    You can get the velocities you are looking for in .38 +P and ,357 mag using data listed on the Alliant website using Bullseye 86. Not going to approach 1,250 fps with the 124/125gr JHP's in the 9mm without using a slower powder like HS7, Blue Dot or maybe Power Pistol all of which give quite a muzzle flash when shot.

    Generally I just buy the Hot 9mm stuff because I have no desire to shoot much of it. Have a couple boxes of Winchesster +P+ 127gr Ranger SXT's surplus police ammo. I chrono'd some of those out of my Glock 19 and they averaged 1,273 fps.
     
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    I also would say BE-86 is worth trying.

    So far I've only loaded a 125gr Gold Dot in .357 Sig. But with Alliant's data, it hit 1400fps from a 4" barrel with very respectable accuracy and (I think) single digit Standard Deviation. I'd assume it would work very well for the loads you're interested in.
     
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    For the record, I have never tried it, @LiveLife is a fan.
     
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    Well one of the guys that are smarter than me said it
     
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    Promo is Red Dot without the color flakes, and cheaper. Use the same weight, not volume, since it has a slightly different density without the color flakes. I use a lot of Red Dot and Promo in shot shells and .45 auto.
     
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  10. Charlie98

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    I actually have some 9mm test loads loaded up with BE-86 for this weekend. I’ll be curious if you can get BE-86 to push a 124grn bullet that fast. My first test loads with a 124grn bullet hit a velocity threshold in my 3.6” Kahr barrel, but hit my 1050fps goal. I’m going to borrow a Taurus with a 5” barrel to see if I can get additional velocity out of it, or if it was just a fluke.
     
  11. chrisf8657

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    Yeah I am using Blue Dot at Max Load from the Speer Manual to achieve that velocity, and it is a whopper of a flash.
    I noticed the BE86 lists a 6 inch for the 38 +P for a 125g, and it's only 1075 for a 158g in 357 Mag?
     
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