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Flawed MSNBC Report and YouTube Content

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Barr, Jul 22, 2012.

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  1. Barr

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    It appears MSNBC and the Australians are now perusing YouTube to retrieve user generated content and include with their newscasts.

    [Sarcasm On]
    Several important facts I learned tonight:

    1. Single shot bolt action .50 caliber rifles are the weapons of choice for the Mexican cartels.
    2. Single shot bolt action .50 caliber rifles can take down a helicopter. And I thought it was hard enough to hit a clay pigeon with a shotgun. It appears we should have equipped our troops all with single shot rifles instead of the Ma Deuce, think of the ammo savings alone at a $1 a bullet!
    [/Sarcasm Off]

    It truly boggles the mind that this level of slanted reporting is available. They claim to perform online gun sales without background checks when really it is a FTF sale with the internet being the equivalent of the old classifieds in the newspaper.

    The most ironic thing is they want to tread on our individual rights to privacy etc. but then appropriate private video content and hide using the Fair Use doctrine for a content purpose that is completely contrary to the intended video purpose. A perfect example of this is a gentlemen shooting a Glock in his backyard in TN, what does this have to do with Gun Control in Australia?

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46316...can-buy-guns-no-questions-asked/#.UAy_GbTwumA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gBKzvinrgA&feature=g-u-u
     
  2. Skribs

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    Sounds like the author is putting the "moron" in oxymoron.

    A lot of this article is just media hype. If you can buy a gun FTF, then you can buy any type of gun legally sold in the US.

    One thing I have to mention, and I'm sure it's not going to be popular to say it on this forum, but it's how I feel - what is the problem with requiring background checks? I know that not everyone who is going to commit a crime will fail a background check, but I take pride in the fact that I can legally buy a weapon from a store, no questions asked except to see my CWP (to eliminate waiting period in WA state) and driver's licence and fill out the appropriate forms.

    I'm not going to call it a "loophole" or anything like that, but FTF transfers are an easy way for people who could not buy a gun in a store due to failed background checks to buy one with relative ease.
     
  3. Barr

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    The one thing that made gun owners look bad was the lack of good prudent sense that most people would use. If someone made a statement to me they did not think they could pass a background check I would have severed the business deal. This is one reason I like the CWP and being able to compare with others.

    The one or two guns I have bought and sold private party have had a complete Bill of Sale drawn up by me with either the CWP or State DL information recorded on two pieces of identical paper with the gun model/serial number, date of sale, purchase price, and signed by both parties. Makes it real easy to prove who bought what and when.
     
  4. Skribs

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    That is a good point, Barr, but if I were a criminal and wanted to buy a gun, I wouldn't be saying "I'm glad you're selling it to me, I wouldn't have passed the check in the store." Granted, I wouldn't have a CWP in that scenario, but I still would have had a driver's license that I could have used to buy from you.
     
  5. JagerRanger

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    It shouldn't. That has been the agenda of (most) of the media for tens of years. They never let the facts confuse their propaganda the idiots watch and digest happily every day.

    It would be interesting to have a two or four-hour debate on guns in every major channel with both sides represented. Oh, the 'slaughter' of the gun banners :) Well, it's a beautiful dream anyways ...
     
  6. Barr

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    In a wishful world both parties would make a prepared 15 min opening statement each and be allowed 15 mins for rebuttal (pre-prepared), total TV program of 1 hour with all kinds of education opportunities.

    I almost bet they had 10 deals setup and only showed the 3-4 worst ones with the lazy/stupid element used to further the storyline. Can't get the facts or majority opinion get in the way of the message!
     
  7. ATBackPackin

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    If you buy a car from a private party, it is not the sellers responsibility to make sure you have a drivers license and proof of insurance. It is the buyers responsibility to make sure they use it in accordance with the law. I see it as no different.

    As far as someone saying, "I probably wouldn't pass a background check." I seriously doubt the average person knows what disqualifies them from purchasing or owning a gun. Now if they said they were a convicted felon that would be a different story.

    Shawn
     
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    There, I fixed it for you. :)

    (It's TV...not news.)
     
  9. Barr

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    Nice.
     
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