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Flintlock Musket barrel & lock markings

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by Budrow, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. Budrow

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    I recently acquired a flintlock musket and I'm trying to better identify what I've got. I'm also trying to restore it with correct period parts. It is a French Charleville style. The barrel is 41 1/4 inches in length, smooth bore .72 cal, dated 1837 with a D, 227, and what looks to be a crown over initials I can't quite make out. The lock has floral like makings but no maker name on the outside. I have not attempted to remove the lock yet to look at the interior. Anyway, please look at the attached photo's and your information, speculation, and thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks, Bud
     

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    Nice looking flintlock, any chance of some photos of the wood and full length photos??
     
  3. Budrow

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    Thanks, I’ll try to take more photos tomorrow and post.
     
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    This may be a mix of parts. The cock (hammer) is clearly a replacement. The flat rear portion of the lockplate is an early feature, not in keeping with the 1837 barrel date (by that time, the lockplates were generally curved).

    French-style muskets were being copied all over Europe, particularly in Belgium, Holland, Italy, and Russia. I don't think this is per se French. I'm not familiar with the floral logo.
     
  5. Budrow

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    Yes, I agree, probably a mixture of parts. Thanks for your input. I’ll try to post more pics.
     
  6. Budrow

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    I took off the lock and it is marked on the inside with what looks like W KETLAND & C. Anyone, know that maker ? I'm adding a few more pics as well just to give an overall idea of what I've got. Obviously, I need correct middle and rear barrel bands. The stock wood is really solid. Note that the frizzen has been "resoled". I believe the trigger guard is a french style. Again, any information, speculation, and thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks, Bud
     

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    OK, thanks. After a little “online” research, looks as though the lock was likely made by William Ketland cira 1802-1831
     
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    What a miscellany of parts! You are correct that the middle and lower bands need to be replaced. From the position of the band springs, you can tell that both of these bands need to be wider. The middle band should be flat instead of having an oval profile, and it lacks the stud for the front sling swivel. Also, it looks like the front band is brass, which doesn't match anything else on the gun. No bayonet lug.

    The trigger guard looks to me like it resembles a Brown Bess style rather than anything French.
     
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