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Florida HB-503 signed by Gov. Crist today!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Braz1956, Apr 15, 2008.

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  1. Braz1956

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    Thats a good start all we need is Open carry then this state would be near perfect.
    This state is very pro-gun and is on its way to being like Vermont or close to it.
     
  3. Huddog

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    Good job Govenor and FL. Legislature. Now if Gov. Purdue will sign our new law things will be even better.
     
  4. fearless leader

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    Better than nothing...

    I have a lot of respect and admiration for our Governor. He works hard to make Florida a better place than it was when he took office. Of this I approve. This is better than the law we had, but it is a long way from the freedom we deserve.

    It doesn't have much affect on me. It excludes sites under the Dept. of Homeland Security. Most of the places I work are under US Marshalls or US Coast Guard rule.:(

    If I want to work at the Port of Jacksonville, I have to drive to one of the worst places in town to get to the port, which is one of the other worst places in town, unarmed.:scrutiny:

    I understand this only applies to persons with a carry permit, as well.

    At least the place I'm currently working is not a DHS regulated site, so far.

    For the last 2+ years, I would have to drive 2 hours to work, unarmed, only to arrive at work and strap on a gun. Go figure. :banghead: Am I alone here, or does this make no sense? They can trust me with a gun at work, but not on the road?:confused:

    To add insult to injury, I am forbidden to carry spare ammo, or a personal weapon with which I am familiar. The weapon I carry at work has never been fired by me. I don't know where it hits, or IF IT WORKS! I carry 6 rounds of the ammo dropped by the Army for not stopping the Moros of the Philipines (lead round nose .38 special) and most likely to riccochet and overpenetrate.

    At least now, I know I can't be fired for the AR 15 in the trunk, and the Glock 23 under the seat.;)
     
  5. MarkDido

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    I'm not seeing the provision that this only applies to CCW holders in the Summary:

     
  6. Dave P

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    Way to go, Charlie! Chalk one more up for the good guys!
     
  7. USMC 1975

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    I have been pretty impressed with Crist. He has taken on the insurance industry and now the Brady Bunch, Chamber of Commerce and others.

    He strikes me as being a common sense type of guy who really could care less what the special interests think. He seems to govern from the side of common sense. That is rare today in our country.

    The thing that flames me to no end is the drive by media which has failed to mention in most of their news reports that these guns are legally owned and legally carried and are locked inside a car in the parking lot. They seem to always demonize gun owners and make it sound as if we are all law breaking jerks.

    It was a good bill and I am glad its now law.

    Chris
     
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    Great news. Now if we get open carry I wont have to move to Arizona.
     
  9. Pete409

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    The new law applies ONLY to those people who have CCW licenses. If you don't have a CCW license, you can't keep a gun in your car at work if the workplace owner prohibits it.

    The good news is that CCW licenses are relatively easy to obtain for law abiding citizens in Florida.
     
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    This is good news! Thank you, Mr. Governor and FL Legislature!
     
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    This is great news I am glad to here he signed it! As others have posted with a few more changes to our gun laws we are well on our way to being one of the best Pro gun states.
     
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    I just read the full body of the law and it looks like the CCW amendment got stripped out. The only mention of CCW is that employers cannot discriminate based on an employee's license status.
     
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    I hope you are right. My understanding is that they tried to pass this law last year with the provision that the law applied to ALL law-abiding citizens, but they were unsuccessful.

    This year, in order to gain more support from some of the legislators in the middle, they agreed that the law would apply ONLY to those who had a CCW license. By making this compromise, they were able to gain enough support to pass the legislation.

    Of course, I guess it's possible that someone "forgot" to put that clause in the actual legislation. :D
     
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    too bad the law take effect in july, and chamber of commerce already filed a lawsuit against it :uhoh:
     
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    I can't tell whether this applies to non CCW citizens of Florida, or only those who have the CCW.

    I've read it both ways.

    http://www.sheriff-okaloosa.org/Press Releases 2007/cc062007.htm

    From the website:

    Quote "To be legal, the firearm must be “securely encased” or “not available for immediate use.” “Securely encased” means in a closed zipper or Velcro pouch, in a snapped holster, or in some other closed compartment. In the glovebox or center console is “securely encased” and therefore legal, as long as the compartment is closed. If you open the closed compartment to retrieve your license or for any other reason, you might now have an illegal concealed firearm. Another way a gun in the car can be legal is to be “not available for immediate use.” For example, a shotgun in a rack in the rear window of a pickup truck would be very difficult for the driver or passenger to quickly use. "


    That makes it seem as though it would be ok even without the CCW. Anyone have any more info on this?
     
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    I can't find the actual text of the signed bill, but I did find this. Apparently the CCW requirement ONLY applies for employees of a business, not customers, etc.

     
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    This is correct.Only the employees of a business.
    That is all.
     
  18. Mark whiz

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    Charlie is a good guy - he was my State Representative when I lived there.
    Make sure you keep him around.
     
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    I wish we had this in Illinois.
     
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    Unfortuantly it does nothing for me.. One of the exclusions is company's involved in Aerospace or National defense, and since I work for an Aerospace company's Im out of luck.

    But on the PLUS side, the company I work for allows you to leave you firearm (unloaded) at the guard shack (receipt given) upon entering the site and pick it up when you leave.

    Better than nothing
     
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    It is already legal for anyone who can legally own a firearm, to have it "securely encased" in their vehicle. Even parked on private property. (*)

    This only prevents a company from firing the employee over it.



    (*) there are a few areas off limits, such as military bases, etc.
     
  22. Guitargod1985

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    Ditto. Oh, plus destructive devices.
     
  23. Guitargod1985

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    Uh, yeah you can. But you can be fired for it.
     
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    Right on.All hail Florida's at will law.
    Probably,the most restrictive of the 50 states.
    I think I'm going to be sick.
     
  25. Dan Forrester

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    What about them. Perfectly legal in this state. I’m the proud owner of one already.

    Dan
     
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