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FMJ's for carry/defense anyone ?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by okc-zee, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. meanmrmustard

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    Proper JHPs? Do tell, what exactly is proper? Do they make a special "wounding-only" HP?
     
  2. meanmrmustard

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    If this were so, wouldn't the jury choose to question why you carry ammunition design for trauma and tissue destruction (and possible hydrostatic shock) rather than the FMJ, which isn't ideal because they make a neat hole more often than not...making them a better "wounder"?

    I see your point, I'm merely stating that in this day we are the persecuted regardless. If it makes you feel better, I have Winchester Ranger 147 gr 9mm on the way as we speak. But if I had a mag of Z Max ready to go, I'm using it. To me, that's better than an FMJ.
     
  3. Skylerbone

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    Fair enough and agreed, better than FMJ. I carry HP to minimize the chance of pass through as there is always the potential for unintended targets given the range of ammunition.
     
  4. meanmrmustard

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    Agreed as well. Lucky for us, we understand that reasoning.
     
  5. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Ones that aren't novelty. It's just silly to be using Z-Max. Please explain to me why it's a good idea over non novelty ammo.
     
  6. meanmrmustard

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    Novelty? Are you going to stand in front of it? Are you going to laugh at the novelty of it if you were shot with it?

    Seriously? Novelty ammo...now that's anti bait. I hope you mean novelty packaging.
     
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  7. R.W.Dale

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    How old are you 14?

    The manufacturer goes out of their way to inform consumers that this ammunition is only to be used on a fantasy undead creature that doesn't exist and you don't think that constitutes a novelty?

    You want to put yourself at the mercy of a public already looking at violent games, social detachment and guns with a microscope by carrying zombie ammunition that practically represents all THREE?

    As a gun owner and part of the broader the community as a whole I think i speak for many when I say that we wish you WOULDN'T CARRY A GUN AT ALL because if found in a situation where you need to use it your cavalier attitude to public perception and grave legal considerations is going to result in another Zimmerman wich is something WE DONT NEED right now.




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  8. meanmrmustard

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    No. But I'd like to hear why that's important to you!

    No. I don't associate the term "novelty" to a combustion driven projectile, capable of inflicting injury and/or death. To do so would be not only foolish, but rather leftist.

    No. This is your opinion...which leads us in circles.

    As a gun owner, I'm ashamed of fellow gun owners and their attitude towards pleasing antis and compromise. Give an inch, lose a mile. Shameful, sir. Especially since you don't know me.

    P.S. My age, creed, race, upbringing, religion, or tax bracket is of no concern to you or anyone else. I'd go so far as to say that attacking another poster, while smaller of scale, is as sad as you believe my ammo choice to be. Congrats.
     
  9. Ehtereon11B

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    Z-max is a novelty ammo. The warning on the side is that it should only be used on zombies. BUT if you also look on the other side of the package it says "Live ammo, not a toy." So if you load it in a weapon, and shoot it at a human being with good shot placement, it will probably kill. It is novelty in the box and the magazine. Put it in the chamber and down the barrel it becomes all business.
     
  10. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Can you please explain to me why you pick this ammo over other proper, not for collecting, JHPs? There was one guy that got charged and convicted of murder for using 10mm hollow points. Sure he got out after his conviction was overturned. It happens and you should take carrying a gun seriously. Don't load your gun with novelty "Zombie Killer" ammo.
     
  11. meanmrmustard

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    If this wasn't a question for me, apologies:
    You'll notice I never said I specifically choose it over any other ammo. I said I'd use it if I had to and not feel bad about it. Novelty or not. Besides, I don't normally collect ammo, unless you mean hoarding.

    But that's me. If someone chooses it for HD/SD or whatever, that's their choice. I don't want to be shot with it.
     
  12. Infidel4life11

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    I carry +p JHP SD/HD, at work the Army's duty ammo is FMJ.
     
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