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For all you Hi Point owners....Hi Point Cleans up in Latest issue of "Gun Tests"

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  1. hillbilly

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    In the May 2006 issue of Gun Tests, Hi Point products score two wins.

    First, "Low Cost 9mms"

    Hi Point is picked as a "Best Buy" over Bersa Thunder 9mm.

    Bersa gets a "Buy It" rating, but in Gun Tests magazine a "Best Buy" is just about their highest endorsement.

    Hi Point wins in .40 carbines, too.

    Hi Point .40 carbine gets a "Best Buy" over the Beretta Storm in .40 which gets a "Don't Buy."

    Beretta Storm gets the "Don't Buy" due to its $800 MSRP, awkward stock.

    Oly Arms K40 AR-platform carbine gets a "Buy It" rating.

    But in both articles, Hi Point gets thumbs down for sheer ugliness, but big thumbs up for reliability, functionality, and bargain price.

    I currently do not own any Hi Point firearms.

    However, if that .45 ACP carbine ever comes out, I just might have to.

    hillbilly
     
  2. Jim K

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    I don't know if I am a Hi-Point "fan". I don't own one but I have fired quite a few and never had any trouble. They are hell for ugly and heavy (due to being blowback), but I never had a failure with one and they seem to work with about any ammo.

    Somehow, many of the folks on the net seem to have taken a real dislike for them. Possibly there were some lemons (as from most makers) but some folks rant about how bad they are, how they are inaccurate and won't work and then say they never fired one or never even saw one. Odd.

    Jim
     
  3. ezypikns

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    The first center fire semi auto I ever bought...

    was a Hi-Point 9mm. I bought it because of the price. Several people advised me not to buy it. When I asked why not, I got the stock answer: "It's junk".
    None of the people who made these comments had ever owned or fired one, so I decided to go ahead and buy one. Absolutely reliable put of the box. Accurate? It was about as accurate as I could shoot at the time. Ugly? Without a doubt.
    I found out later that you can certainly buy a more accurate pistol, and undoubtedly you can buy something better looking. In my experience however, you can't buy a more reliable weapon.
    Having said all this, I have to admit, I couldn't stand the way it looked. Sold it after about 1000 rds.
     
  4. Crosshair

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    Hi-Point Forums:cool:

    I'm really surprised about the Beretta Storm recieving the rating that it did.
     
  5. Mooseman

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    My Hi-Point 45 is reliable and of course ugly. Does it send lead reliably down range where I want it to? Yes! Do I want to carry it when other options are available? No! My Ruger sp101 in .357 is what I carry. Am I sorry I bought a Hi-Point? NO! Would I recommend it? Yes! Would I buy another? Certainly.:)
     
  6. Templar223

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    Hi-point handguns, then and now.

    I bought a Hi-Point 9mm pistol back in about 1993ish. I was amused at the thought of a pistol for $89. It was a total POS. Weighed about as much as a case of .223 ammo (or so it seemed), held a whopping 7 or 8 rounds and had a challenging time keeping the rounds on a piece of 8.5x11 paper at about 25 feet. Oh, I forgot, about half the bullets tumbled their way to that target. Sold it in one week to some kid for $100. Good riddance. (Sucka!)

    Fast Forward:

    Last fall, in one of my Personal Protection Classes, I had a student who owned 2 9mm Hi-Points and a .40. He used the "most tricked outedest" (yeah, I know that's not a word, but it fits) gun himself, and cursed his son and wife with the other two. He had :D :D muzzle brakes, laser sights, flashlights and all sorts of other stuff on these guns. I remember asking him if they (the Hi-Points) worked well when we were practicing stances and dry firing. He said, "Oh, yeah. And I got all three for what a Beretta would've cost me." Okay...

    So, after lunch, we're down on the range.

    "On the line, with one round, load and make ready."

    Oh, yeah. They work great and he got all three for about the cost of one Beretta (on my hip). One wouldn't feed the one and only round real well.

    Pretty soon, shooting five-round strings, the POSs was having stoppages worse than a public toilet with intermittent running water.

    Let's just suffice it to say that most of the rest of the class had to wait until Sunday Morning to practice their malfunction clearing drills. This poor guy, his wife and son got a little one-on-one instruction on malfunction clearing on the first day. Well, make that extensive, not "little".

    By about 4pm, I offered him my "three of yours makes one of mine" Beretta. "Hey, wow, this really works well. And it's so light."

    Yeah, a full-size M9 light. Uh-huh. Compared to a boat anchor, sure.

    Yeah. Think "excrement" if you see any Hi-Point handguns more than a couple years old. They are expensive paperweights & laser pointers. His wife and kid about kissed me after I let them borrow a couple of Glocks.

    I'm gonna guess he's sold those and bought one or two real guns. It's what I told him to do anyway.

    I know their carbine supposedly run like champs, but I haven't found any of their handguns worth pissing on.

    John
     
  7. clone

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    i own a Hi Point C9 and a JHP45. the 45 has been flawless in function and reliability.

    the 9mm did give me a few jams until i did a fluff and buff on the mag's. i believe the 9mm's would 10x's better if they took a bit more time on redesigning the mags. one thing i think would help is to use the same type followers that the 45 style mags do.

    can anyone confirm or deny, if the Hi Point 40 has the same style follower as the JHP45?
     
  8. chris in va

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    My 9mm carbine is still a favorite of mine. Solid reliability and accurate as all get out. I just wish the 20rd magazine I bought for it actually worked.:cool:
     
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    The problem with them feeding is due to the owner using blunt HP bullets. One needs to use ammo with a more rounded nose. I handload for my 995 carbine and I keep the rounds close to the max spec for 9mm (1.069", I load my rounds to 1.050") and I get 100% reliability. It's when you load them to a short OAL or use the wrong shaped bullet that they like to jam up in my experience.
     
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    ATI makes a replacement stock for the Carbine now. Kinda looks like a storm.
     
  11. rangerruck

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    i owned a 9mm pistol once, ONCE. the only good thing i can say about it was, the fully adjustable, very visible rear sites.
     
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    Mine (9mm) works like a champ.
     
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    I have enough money that I dont feel the need to own a ugly and cheap pistol but my brother bought one and I have to say it's a damn fine little shooter. I also agree with crosshair about the ammo. My brothers is finicky with certain HP's other wise it shoots like a champ.
     
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    It's certainly not the best gun, but it is affordable, reliable protection. Good for Hi Point.
    J
     
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    I have the .40 and love it. My wife has decided its hers however. She does let me shoot whenever i want to. It has probably had close to 4000 rounds thru it at this point without so much as a hiccup. I killed a deer in the driveway with it last year, one shot dropped him where he stood.:D
     
  16. Mannlicher

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    Gun Tests is written by non gunners, FOR non gunners. I don't trust a darn thing they say. Even when they 'get it right', its for the wrong reasons. Trust this rag at your own peril. :what:

    On the other hand, when comparing Bersas and Hi Points, its like comparing garbage and crap. Neither is much worh buying.
     
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    Love the carbines! Great guns... ;)
     
  18. hillbilly

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    Of course, Mannilcher!

    And all the other gun magazines they are written by GUNNERS!

    All the other gun magazines are written by gunners for the manufacturers and advertisers....uh, oops, I mean by gunners for other gunners!!

    The other gun magazines are full of truth and light and they pick the right guns for the right reasons!

    The other gun magazines never, and I mean never put lots of polish on a turd just to keep the company that made it spending lots and lots of advertising dollars in their little rag, uh, I mean magazine.

    Absolutely!

    hillbilly
     
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    Mannlicher I have to say this with no offense intended ,but I would put my Bersa 380 up against any comparable pistol you have and I believe I would win. At 10 yards my Bersa and I are shootin 1 to 1.5 in. groups. Being that it is just a HD gun for my wife I'd say those are respectable numbers. I'd also like to say that after about a 1000 rounds my wife and I have never experienced a faliure of any kind. All ammo thats been run through it has worked fine. I think your bashing a firearm manufacturer you have limited experience with. I can only assume you don't subscribe to guntests so you are a real gunner.
     
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    I am rather surprised that they'd rate the Bersa higher than the new Taurus Millenium Pros and 24/7s. :scrutiny:

    Did they even test those?
     
  21. Stiletto Null

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    In my untrained opinion, having never actually FIRED a Storm, but only handled them: they suck.

    I also don't like Hi Point pistols, mainly because they're balanced all weird and are fugly.

    HOWEVER, I fully intend to get "a few" Hi Point carbines, because while they're not very pretty, they have decent (ghost ring) sights and I hear they're accurate and reliable.
     
  22. CajunBass

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    So tell me. Which was used to shoot this target from 7 yards? Crap or garbage?

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Wakal

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    Not bad.

    Oh, wait, you said "7 yards". That looks like one of my 50-yard targets. Only your target has some wicked flyers and mine...well...not so much.

    :neener:

    I've had the same experience (students bringing HiPoints) in my CHL and basic NRA classes. Thankfully, most folks realize that no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it is still a pig...and have not brought any out for competition or competition classes.

    Good price point, and they tend to go "bang"...for a while.





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  24. CajunBass

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    Well, now you are right on both counts there Alex. It is pretty close shooting, I agree. Shoot I can't hardly see a target at 50 yards, much less shoot at it. :eek: As for the flyers, well it was ME shooting the gun. I take credit for those. The gun get's the blame for the ones in the black. :neener:
     
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    :D

    I just wish more gun companies would make...more inexpensive...pistols. HiPoint is on the right track, I think, with a basic design with no frills. Not everyone needs a Porche, but most folks could use a car.

    But to use the same analogy, even Metros run most all the time :)




    Alex
     
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