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Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by StrawHat, May 3, 2008.

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  1. StrawHat

    StrawHat Member

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    Is there a schematic that can be posted so when we refer to parts of revolvers (or rifle locks) we all can use or at least have access to similar terminology?

    What I call a cylinder arbor, you might call a cylinder pin, and someone else might call a "cylinder thingy".

    It might help lessen confusion, especially as often we get threads about ...How do I fix...

    Just a thought.
     
  2. scrat

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    like this.

    oh GARY

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  3. mykeal

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    Well, almost.

    That diagram calls the 'cylinder thingy' a 'frame'. Or more accurately doesn't name it at all.

    This is a great starting point, however. If I can get some time during one of the late night Stanley cup games I'll take a shot at photoshopping it to add some more info. If nothing else it'll give us something else to flame - I'm sure there will be plenty of dissension about some of the names I use, at least from one person.
     
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  4. pohill

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    #7 above is listed as a frame, and #6 as a cylinder. Correct?
     
  5. Niner

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    cylinder pin

    If you want to see one of them listed as such a Remington would be the one to show.
     
  6. StrawHat

    StrawHat Member

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    I wasn't intending a "one photo fits all" scenario.

    If the situation calls for a Remington to be pictured, include it.

    I was hoping for a sticky of a parts legend and sketch so all could see what was being talked about.

    Getting folks to use it might be a different story.
     
  7. dwave

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    Gun Diagrams

    Colt

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    1 Frame Assembly
    2 Hammer Assembly
    3 Barrel
    4 Wedge Assembly
    5 Cylinder Assembly
    6 Loading Lever Latch
    7 Hand Assembly
    8 Backstrap
    9 Barrel Stud
    10 Trigger
    11 Grip
    12 Bolt
    13 Loading Lever
    14 Nipple
    15 Sight
    16 Loading Lever Latch Spring
    17 Wedge Spring
    19 Trigger Bolt Spring
    20 Mainspring
    21 Base Pin
    22 Hand Pin
    23 Barrel Pin
    24 Plunger
    25 Roller
    26 Triggerguard
    27 Loading Lever Latch Pin
    29 Wedge Pin
    30 Roller Pin
    31 Front Triggerguard Screw
    32 Rear Backstrap Screw
    33 Wedge Screw
    34 Plunger Screw
    35 Trigger Bolt Spring Screw
    36 Main Spring Screw
    37 Hammer Screw
    38 Trigger Screw
    39 Loading Lever Screw
    40 Bolt Screw
    41 Cylinder Pin
     

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  8. dwave

    dwave Member

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    Remingtons

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    1 1 Frame
    2 1 Hammer
    3 1 Barrel
    5 1 Cylinder
    6 1 Loading Lever Latch
    7 1 Hand Assembly
    9 1 Barrel Stud
    10 1 Trigger
    12 1 Bolt
    13 1 Loading Lever
    14 6 Nipple
    15 1 Sight
    16 1 Loading Lever Latch Spring
    18 1 Hand Spring
    19 1 Trigger Bolt Spring
    20 1 Mainspring
    21 1 Base Pin
    24 1 Plunger
    25 1 Roller
    26 1 Triggerguard
    27 1 Loading Lever Latch Pin
    30 1 Roller Pin
    31 1 Front Triggerguard Screw
    35 1 Trigger Bolt Spring Screw
    37 1 Hammer Screw
    38 1 Trigger Screw
    39 1 Loading Lever Screw
    43 1 Right Grip Nut
    44 1 Left Grip Nut
    45 1 Right Grip Assembly
    46 1 Left Grip Assembly
    47 1 Link
    49 1 Link Pin
    50 1 Plunger Pin
    51 1 Grip Pin
    52 1 Hand Screw
    53 1 Main Spring Screw
    54 1 Grip Screw
     

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  9. dwave

    dwave Member

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    Here is a thread started for what you are asking. If you mods would like to sticky, that is up to them.

    Gun Diagrams
     
  10. JayC

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    A good site for diagrams of various models is www.vtigunparts.com. It covers several different models, from three or four original makers.
     
  11. sundance44s

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    Colt calls that thingy a Base pin ..and he doesn`t mention wads or crisco ..LOL [​IMG]
     
  12. scrat

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    he may call it a base pin but its part of the frame. Colts original design was based on 30 pieces not 31.
     
  13. pohill

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    I always knew the arbor/cylinder pin to be part of the frame.
    It'd be interesting to list all the different names for the same part; pawls, sears, lugs, studs, arbors, keys, etc.
    I think the Paterson has 17 more parts than (for example) the Walker.
     
  14. scrat

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    Ya but you cant count the chewing gum to keep it together POHILL.



    Ok bad joke. Id love to have a paterson.
     
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    Y'all are over-generalizing. In a Paterson, for example, part no. 7 in that diagram would be made from at least nine parts.

    Generic parts lists don't work well.
     
  16. pohill

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    Yeah, but have you ever tried to put a Paterson back together? I have one and those 17 extra parts seem like 170. Gum isn't a bad idea, or an extra hand (human hand).
    I got the "17 extra parts" info from a book but I can't remember which one.
     
  17. theotherwaldo

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    Nope, never tried to fix a Paterson. Researched 'em, though, when I thought about taking apart a Peterson relic I'd dug up. One look at the plans disabused me of that idea. I donated it to the local historical society instead.
     
  18. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Good question. Post your schematics here and I'll add this to the sticky thread on essential knowledge.
     
  19. dwave

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  20. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Will do & thanks!:)
     
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    Does anyone know who may sale replacement frames?
     
  22. Smokin_Gun

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    This is a Test Name that Rev and Name the parts ... honor system write the answers at home and grade yourself...Post your persentile on both Revs.

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    Pohill don't offer answers for money:evil:

    SG
     
  23. Smokin_Gun

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    Strawhat, I think this is Mec's diagram, is this what you meant?
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    SG
     
  24. sundance44s

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    First one is a Colt Paterson & the second one is a Ruger Old Army made prior to 1977.

    Paterson:
    1 = Frame
    2 = hammer
    3 = barrel
    4 = wedge
    5= cylinder
    7 = hand
    8 = back strap
    10= trigger
    11 = grip
    I'll have to get to the rest, gotta get back to work.
     
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