For those laughing at CO

[MachIVshooter]

You better wake up! Do you really think this was about Colorado? Think Bloomyberg and his ilk give a rat's posterior about a flyover state 2000 miles away with barely more than half the population of his city? You think they threw millions of dollars into this battle because they actually care what happens here?

We are the guinea pigs, the test bed. Being a fiscally conservative, socially liberal moderate state with a strong firearm heritage, we are very representative of the nation as a whole. That's why we were targeted, that's why we have been receiving substantial NATIONAL coverage. If we don't spank the gun grabbers here in 2014, the entire country is going down the same road, guaranteed. If the reprisal is insufficient here, it sends the message to ALL the congresscritters in DC that the cost is acceptable. You will see "conservatives" flock to gun control.

If you live in this state, you'd better be doing everything you can, including sending money to RMGO, writing tons of letters, etc. If you don't live here, you should be doing the same thing.

A short few years ago, I'd have never thought this could happen here. But liberal anti-gun money and influence is destroying us, and the aim is to do the same to the nation. Nobody is shocked when NY or CA passes more draconian gun laws, but to have it happen here is a major blow to RKBA. It's part of their "Colorado Model", and believe me, they're waiting anxiously to see how it pans out in the next election. If we don't annihilate them, get ready. You'll see federal laws that mirror the ones they're passing here, and worse.

 

[HankR]

Nobody is laughing.

I'm trying not to cry.

 

[481]

I am also absolutely sick for those in Colorado who are about to become subject to such unconstitutional law.

Similar, equally oppressive legislation is on the table in many other states (mine included) and what we've seen so far is just the start. The 'other side' thinks it's their turn again and they've pulled out all the stops this time going after the state legislatures, too.

I have lost track of how many letters I've made (at least several dozen) and will not stop now.

 

[Pilot]

I don't think any of us are laughing inside or outside Colorado. It is pretty obvious that this is the model, blueprint and/or road map for what the statists want to do nationally, and they are winning.

The response in 2014 has to be absolutely devastating to those that supported this Bill. We also have to defeat it in the courts or get it repealed.

 

[Racinfan83]

I doubt that anyone on this forum is laughing. This just shows what happens when your guard is let down. The citizens of CO voted in a bunch of liberals - thinking that they would leave guns alone since they were such a significant part of the state's history. Look what happened... ONE liberal made the difference. Now they are screwed. This should put everyone on notice to help make sure that no more liberals get elected - that is if you like your 2nd Amendment Rights. liberals are proving day by day that they do not care about trampling on the Constitution... And people are dumb enough to vote them in anyway..

 

[CoRoMo]

It's important to mention that Colorado has 'become blue' over the last couple of decades due to people moving here from exceptionally 'deep blue' states. While they couldn't manage to operate a business or find a decent job in their old state or maybe they couldn't bare the inner city crime, they moved here and have begun changing this state into their old one. Running for office or putting people in office that pass laws similar to the state they fled has given us a legislature and governorship that jumped at the chance to disarm honest Americans.

This phenomenon is occurring in every last state in the nation; Texas, Arizona, Wyoming, Idaho, you name it.

 

[X-Rap]

Anyone living in a red state needs to take a hard look at their population centers and how quickly the balance can change. It didn't happen overnight in CO and many were yelling the warning and it doesn't always come hard in the face. Don't believe that the gun issues are the first big wins for the libs. Outlawing trapping, bear baiting and dog hunting, med pot, legal pot just to name a few. We have been slowly turning liberal on the social front for quite some time and have had some dismal showings of conservatives in recent elections. Plenty to learn from this state for both sides, seems like one side paid better attention than the other.

 

[GlowinPontiac]

Today we here in CT are fighting against a law requiring liability insurance for all guns. Trust me we are not laughing.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I don't think any of us are laughing inside or outside Colorado

I've seen more than a few "Thank god I live in (insert state) " kind of replies here and elsewhere. Those folks are the ones who really need to open their eyes and take note. We were one of those states, and if this trend continues, TX, WY, MT and all the others will be "used to" places as well.

 

[CoRoMo]

I don't see or hear anyone laughing to be honest, except for some of my fellow Colorado gun owners. They laugh at the legislation as if it were so impotent it needn't be opposed.

This attitude I'm most sick of is the one that says it's pointless to get involved. I urged some of my gun owning acquaintances to contact the legislature; they told me, "I'll just buy mags out of state and bring them back, it's unenforceable". Or when discussing the pending legislation they'd brush it off with a, "Yeah, what can ya do", or "It'll all be alright, this is America, that stuff won't pass". It's as though these laws are REAL LAWS and therefore don't need to be opposed as if they were.

One particular dummkopf gun owner would just brush it all off because he 'already has all the guns and mags' he needs; "I think if I'm armed with two or three 15-round magazines...[beats chest] I'm fairly well armed!". When challenged that this is only a cornerstone for more gun control he replies, "If I can't handle the threat with 8 rounds of .45acp, that threat simply can't be handled!"

I ranted in two different threads recently...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=704077
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=705657

Here's a paraphrase of several conversations that I've had lately with business colleagues, employees, and general acquaintances. When I follow up with them the conversations go almost exactly like this...

• CoRoMo: Have you contacted anyone in the Senate from the list that I sent you?
• Other: No. I don't want to be getting a bunch of emails back from them and I'd probably end up on some sort of terrorist watch list if I sent them an email.
• CoRoMo: The law would prohibit you from ever acquiring, giving, receiving, buying, or selling any of your AR mags to anyone or from anyone ever again.
• Other: That won't stop me. I'll just drive to Raton, NM / Cheyenne, WY and buy them anyway and say I owned them before the law went in.
• CoRoMo: You won't be able to loan or borrow a firearm except while hunting, or from immediate, blood relatives outside your home or theirs according to law.
• Other: There's no way they will find out. I'll do it anyway.
• CoRoMo: You won't be able to buy or sell firearms between friends or family at all [without BGC] according to law.
• Other: They will never know. I'll do it anyway and we'll just say that the gun was bought/sold before the law went in.

I guess I'm ranting again because I sort of think it is the fault of lazy pieces of trash like this that the legislature here didn't choke on the sheer number of emails, phone calls, and letters they COULD HAVE received in opposition to these laws.

When following up with one guy, I told him that it's time to hammer the governor with emails to veto the legislation. He told me, "I sent that one!", referring to the very first round of emails to the House committee where the mag bill originated. Utter laziness, they just don't want to bother getting involved.

 

[ThorinNNY]

In New York responsible gun owners are not only feeling your grief, we are dealing with similar tyrany inflicted on us by by Bloomberg ,his minions and his billions. Keep the faith, brother, it`ll be a long, hard struggle but in the end we`ll defeat them.

 

[gatorjames85]

I'm not laughing here in Florida. It is extremely concerning to see a state that seemed relatively safe (at least from what I was aware of) fall prey to the gun grabbers. Historically, the anti-gun movement was much less organized than us, but that is quickly changing. Mayors Against Illegal Guns is not playing around and has lots of Bloomberg money.

 

[psyopspec]

I doubt that anyone on this forum is laughing. This just shows what happens when your guard is let down. The citizens of CO voted in a bunch of liberals - thinking that they would leave guns alone since they were such a significant part of the state's history. Look what happened... ONE liberal made the difference. Now they are screwed. This should put everyone on notice to help make sure that no more liberals get elected - that is if you like your 2nd Amendment Rights. liberals are proving day by day that they do not care about trampling on the Constitution... And people are dumb enough to vote them in anyway..

That's a gross oversimplification. The... unique way in which the last gubernatorial election played out certainly had something to with it. It was mid-cycle, and the utterly despicable candidate who ran for one party, which spawned a third party bid by a former US Congressmen probably kept a lot of Republicans home and certainly divided the vote.

 

[gym]

None of us are laughing about a state , "any state or individual", losing it's rights. As we have acknowledged in countless posts it must stop here and now. organization and lists must be made so the comman man knows who is who, and who they need to vote for. This must be done expediantlly and with the greatest care possible. We can't just write a few letters and assume anything, we must get these toxic people out of office now.
Waiting for another presidential election will be too late, we need to surgical strikes to their base.

 

[mljdeckard]

I'm with you man.

 

[mike.h]

This is serious stuff, I sure hope nobody is laughing.

 

[X-Rap]

That's a gross oversimplification. The... unique way in which the last gubernatorial election played out certainly had something to with it. It was mid-cycle, and the utterly despicable candidate who ran for one party, which spawned a third party bid by a former US Congressmen probably kept a lot of Republicans home and certainly divided the vote.

What you say is true in that we probably wouldn't have had a Republican Gov. so willing to sign these bills but some of the dems who voted in favor don't come from the Denver, Boulder liberal strongholds they come from blue collar and rural areas like Pueblo. We somehow have 2 senators in DC that I hope never have to cast the deciding vote on a gun control bill.
This state has changed and my hope is that it is simply conservative voter apathy and there is hope for a reversal.

 

[HankR]

The OP followed with: I've seen more than a few "Thank god I live in (insert state)

That's different from laughing at you. We are allowed to be proud that we've successfully fought for our rights, for now. I do thank God each and every day that I do live in a free state, and I thank Him that he allowed us to move as our previous state became less free.

gatorjames85: It is extremely concerning to see a state that seemed relatively safe (at least from what I was aware of) fall prey to the gun grabbers

Nobody who has really been paying attention is all that surprised. Despite family and job opportunities, I turned down an opportunity to move to Colorado about 9 years ago -- it is not the Colorado of my youth. Many friends and family members have begun to flee CO over the last 5 or so years, and one was making plans to leave (for purely political reasons, they are retired) prior to the new gun laws.

Yes, it can happen here (wherever "here" happens to be for you). In the past it has happened gradually. We need to be diligent, even paranoid over the "slippery slopes", but we shouldn't be surprised.

 

[JBrady555]

I'm also from FL and I'm scared that Jacksonville, Orlando and Miami are going to start dictating legislation for the rest of the state. Large metropolitan areas along with a don't give a F attitude from "the good ole boys" is going to start changing pro gun states into antis without even having the support from a majority of the people. Too many responsible independent type small town folks still don't believe that what happens in Washington or their state governments actually affects them and they don't care about getting involved.

 

[Racinfan83]

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I doubt that anyone on this forum is laughing. This just shows what happens when your guard is let down. The citizens of CO voted in a bunch of liberals - thinking that they would leave guns alone since they were such a significant part of the state's history. Look what happened... ONE liberal made the difference. Now they are screwed. This should put everyone on notice to help make sure that no more liberals get elected - that is if you like your 2nd Amendment Rights. liberals are proving day by day that they do not care about trampling on the Constitution... And people are dumb enough to vote them in anyway..

That's a gross oversimplification. The... unique way in which the last gubernatorial election played out certainly had something to with it. It was mid-cycle, and the utterly despicable candidate who ran for one party, which spawned a third party bid by a former US Congressmen probably kept a lot of Republicans home and certainly divided the vote.

That part I did not know.. I'm three states away. But the GOP as a whole "shot itself in the foot" in many different ways the last two elections. Bad candidates, bad management, and even worse "media gaffes" were their (and gun owners) downfall. Case in point - Todd Akin here in MO, who had the election WON until he spouted off something about "legitimate rape" on a local TV interview.... They (and WE) have got to learn from the failures....

 

[Godsgunman]

Definitely no laughing here. I used to love CO and was looking to move there. No way now. I am very thankful for the state I live in and if anything what has happened in CO has made me all the more politically active. I will pay attention to EVERY election from school board on up. Can't give these enemies of freedom a foothold anywhere.

 

[jerkface11]

Doesn't really matter what the republicans say or do the media will still count it as a gaffe. Obama didn't know how many states we have and got a pass. Cruz took a drink of water and they declared the end of his career.

 

[X-Rap]

That couldn't be more true, the way the media reports gaffes, and misrepresents statements by conservatives should be an embarassment to the craft.
They are the ones most to blame in the the rise of the left in this country and abroad. Complicant in almost every victory that I can think of.

 

[mljdeckard]

Even if the circumstances that put the current governor were a bit of a fluke, that still wouldn't have happened without a lot of people who were upset with how their state was being run hadn't moved to another state and tried to run it the same way as their old state.

 

[Grassman]

Bloomberg might be more dangerous than obama right now, he is more embolden everyday, and almost limit less funds to further his agenda. He is a scary little commie man. That guy has power on his mind.