For those who carry a revolver ???

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Triggernosis, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. Triggernosis

    Triggernosis Member

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    Tell me about it! I'm lucky to find 50% of my casings out on my farm when shooting my semis, yet still have the same 100 .32 H&R casings I purchased 5 years ago when I began hand loading for my Single Six.
     
  2. Vern Humphrey

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    That's why when I go into the woods, my M1911 stays in the drawer and I carry my Colt New Service in .45 Colt.
     
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  3. skoro

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    My EDC is a S&W 642. I've carried semi-autos, but I prefer this little snub because:
    1. it's light
    2 .it's compact, making pocket carry convenient
    3. it's simple and very highly reliable
    4. I could shoot through my pocket if needed and it won't jam
    5. it could perform a contact shot
    6. heavy 38+P loads will do the job

    Sure, it's only 5 shots. It's extremely unlikely that I'll ever need even one.
     
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  4. Vern Humphrey

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    Have you ever actually fired through your pocket?

    I'd want to do that a couple of hundred times before I counted on that technique when the chips are down.
     
  5. skoro

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    Nope
    Don't let me stop you.
     
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  6. UncleEd

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    Shoot from suit coat or jacket pocket, not
    from a pant's pocket as I believe that would
    be a bit awkward.

    Now for the fun stuff, check out the video
    by Paul Harrell from under the covers of
    a bed. :rofl: His jammies are quite eye
    catching.
     
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  7. Vern Humphrey

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    During the Tan War (the Irish War of Independence, 1919-21) the IRA in South Cork was using a Lewis gun. Since that gun with enough ammo to make it worthwhile is quite a load for a man on foot, they "procured" a Model T Fort to use as a weapons carrier.

    When the Truce ended the fighting, the boyos took their car into town, and were confronted by some Auxies (former British officers and know for their brutality.) One of the Auxies said, "That's OUR car!" and squared off in a classic Old-West quick draw position. Someone said to the driver of the car, who just stood there with his hands in the pockets of his trench coat, "Back off! Don't you see his hands hovering over his guns?"

    "Dinna wurra. Oi've got me guns in me hands." :)
     
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  8. ms6852

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    I'm a good shot. Don't need a gun that shoots 15 or 20 times before you reload. Why carry if you can't hit your mark with the first shot. Secondly I don't plan to fight multiple guys like it is done in Hollywood.
     
  9. Vern Humphrey

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    First of all, my experience is that you can expect a 90% degradation of performance in combat. I was in the Army's Training Revolution from the get-go and spent the next 20+ years, both in Service and after retirement going all around the world training. I participated in studies looking at stress in combat situations. It's one thing to be able to hit your mark with the first shot on the range, it's another thing to do it when the chips are down.

    Secondly, it doesn't matter what you or I plan -- the attacker has the initiative. HE decides on the time, place and mode of the attack. He may choose a place we would never suspect him to choose, and he may be alone or with friends.
     
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    I’m used to it....I’m very accurate with it...It’s my friend...and in the event of hands on, it can be a VERY efficient, stainless steel headbuster.
     
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  11. MIOkie

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    Surprised we even leave our homes without semi-auto supremacy...

    I’m scared to go to work tomorrow... with my inferior five-shot .38.

    At least I will have my Covid Mask to keep me safe from all things bad.
     
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    I’m plenty safe with my trusty undercover 38 in my pocket ( one speedloader always), going to two speedloaders nov 3rd!
     
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  13. Dr.Rob

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    Fits better in a pocket. Strongsiding a full sized auto isnt always an option.
     
  14. Kleanbore

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    First, that is extremely naive--the target will likely be moving fast, and require a very quick shot without deliberation,. Second, it may well take two or three hits to effect a timely physical stop.

    What might Hollywood have to do with it. Or, what you "plan"?
     
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  15. ms6852

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    Than you understand when I say if your going to die, accepting your mortality in whatever attack happens chosen not by you, that standing your ground also unravels the attacker as well, and if he has not faced combat as you or I have my approach to commit to the fullest is my only way to survive the attack. In this situations only the most committed have accepted their outcome. I still stand by what I posted earlier, it will not make a difference if I can not hit with the first shot. Carrying a pistol with a 15 round mag is moot if the first shot fired by the attacker is from the rear and makes contact with my brain.
     
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  16. Mr. Mosin

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    Mmm. I'm just a young fella. Don't know much. Not much real world life-or-death experience. However, from my understanding, what I've read, who I've spoken to, et al; those who carry a revolver do so for one (or more) of several reasons.

    1. The first and foremost I've seen is "comfort". Comfort in both the manual of arms (draw, point, pull trigger x5), and comfort in carry. I'd rather someone carry something they were comfortable and familiar with, than something that they were uncomfortable with and unfamiliar with. If memory serves me, studies have shown that most people either carry what is comfortable, or they simply don't carry. Whether it's a S&W 442, Ruger LCP, whatever it may be... they carry for comfort's sake.

    2. Inability to responsibly/safely carry anything else. I've read several accounts on here of individuals being incapable* of managing the manual of arms of a given auto loader (*age, injury, infirmity, etc). If you can not safely and readily handle the manual of arms for a given platform/weapon, it is my humble opinion that you should find something else to carry.

    3. Power. No readily available, common, auto loader cartridge can match a .44 Magnum, let alone the "Super Magnums". Doesn't matter how many cartridges are in a given magazine if that cartridge is nigh ineffective against Yogi or Bullwinkle.
     
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    If I choose a pocket sized gun, I don’t get all wound up on 5 rounds vs 7 rounds.
     
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  18. Kleanbore

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    The subjective side is personal, but on an objective basis, when one figures in the likelihood of a few misses or ineffective shots, a 7 round capacity provides a lot more margin than 5.
     
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  19. Mr. Mosin

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    Objectively.... how much better would a 5x snub (S&W 442) conceal vs a 7 shot snub (S&W 686+) ?
     
  20. Kleanbore

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    Edited: if that means keeping it covered, not at all. If it means preventing it from being recognized, concealment is a rather subjective factor.

    It would depend upon personal build, clothing style, fabric patterns, method of carry...
     
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    Concealment vs comfort. I like a J-frame IWB. I dislike an N or L frame IWB. They probably conceal about the same.
     
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  22. Mr. Mosin

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    Pardon my crudeness, but subjective nothing. Smaller gun conceals better.
     
  23. Vern Humphrey

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    But who cares?

    I sometimes carry my Colt New Service -- the largest cartridge revolver Colt ever made (until they made the Anaconda) under an untucked shirt.
     
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    Smith & Wesson Model 19 2 ½ inch barrel .357 Magnum. Really "lights up the night", sorta like those flame throwers used on Iwo Jima.
    With my Smith, I don't need to worry, or do any hat-tricks to clear the slide if the first round doesn't understand its job, just pull the trigger again and hope like hell the next round makes the noise I commonly hear:

    mqfp5pfl.jpg

    And, I do like the choice between .38 Special or the illuminating .357 Magnum rounds, that are also very, very noisy.
     
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    I took a robbery report from a teenager, who was walking home, southbound, from his job, at a Kroger store, where we often shopped for groceries. He noticed a Chevrolet Suburban pass him, at slow speed. This gave him an uneasy feeling, so, he decided to detour to a wider, parallel, north-south street, with better lighting. He reached the east-west street, on which he lived, which was also a well-lit street. He crossed in front of a convenience store, where I had often stopped for small items. As he reached bus shelter, near this convenience store, he realized that he was being followed, by several teens, who were on foot. As he neared the next cross street, what appeared to be that same Suburban suddenly appeared. To make a long story short, he was soon be fired upon, by a shotgun, from the Suburban, to his east, and by at least one 9mm pistol, being used by the friendly teen pedestrians to his west. This was not Hollywood, but a “nice” part of Houston, Texas, a neighborhood I patrolled at night, and where I had sometimes walked our largest dog.

    Again, not Hollywood, and, not in a movie. It was in what I saw as MY neighborhood. (We had moved, shortly before this incident, but not far away, and my father-in-law was still living in that neighborhood.) It happened to one of the very nice stock boys who worked where we shopped for groceries.

    I am not saying that this means that one must carry a pistol that shoots 15 or 20 times. The complainant, in the above story, survived my turning into a private driveway of an ice machine company, going over a quite high gate, running to the rear of the premises, climbing an amazing high fence, and dropping into a fenced residential backyard. His attackers did not follow, past that first gate. Yes, his attackers survived, too, even though the shotgun guy, inside the Suburban, and the pedestrians, who had one or more 9mm pistols, were shooting toward each other.

    I collected empty 9mm cases, as evidence. This happened.

    Notably, this event did not prompt me to change my personal-time carry armament. This occurred when when I was regularly carrying a 2.25” .357 SP101 revolver, plus another revolver, during personal time. The second revolver would have often been a second 2.25” .357 SP101, or a 4” GP100. Or, I may have had my 4” Speed Six, by then. (My mandated duty pistol, at that time, had to be one of four wide-body .40 autos, so it was a G22, when this incident happened. I switched to a P229R primary duty pistol in 2004. Some time in the 2006 to 2008 time frame, I finally started dressing around a non-railed P229, during personal time.)

    I used to tell folks, starting in the late Nineties, that my “primary” handgun, 24/7/365, was an SP101. ;) Whether the SP101 was in an Alessi ankle rig, while in police uniform, or in a belt holster during personal time, I always carried an SP101, plus another gun, which made the SP101 “primary.” Notably, my hands are long, but not wide, and I have skinny fingers, so there is a place on the SP101 factory grip for my pinkie finger, and the “heel” of the grip just reaches the “heel bone” area of my hand, so, an SP101 behaves much like a duty/service handgun, for me, while firing it. I do, of course, appreciate a larger revolver, if I have to speed-load it, as the larger weapon provides more “work space,” for faster and more-expedient speed-loading.
     
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