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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by HydeSmyler, Feb 25, 2009.

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  1. HydeSmyler

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    I was pretty bummed out today when eric holder was on cspan stating that the administration was not going to change much as far as firearms go except to implement an assault weapons ban. He did not say when but he did say it is going to happen to prevent arms from getting over the border to mexican gangs.
     
  2. TexasRifleman

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    Administrations don't implement things like this. It takes an act of Congress.

    No legislation is currently pending for any AWB's.

    I'm sure the administration would like to see a ban passed, but it is very questionable whether Congress has the votes to push one through in this climate.

    Not time to panic yet :)
     
  3. WoofersInc

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    When the economy continues to tank, they are going to have to do something to make it look like they are getting things acomplished. That's when I think they will go after the guns.
     
  4. HydeSmyler

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    Thanks TexasRifleman I feel a little better now. Sorry for my ignorance on this matter. This was on c-span about half hour ago.
     
  5. BBQLS1

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    Close the border and the gun problem in Mexico will go away, or at least won't be from the US.
     
  6. everallm

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    HydeSmyler,

    There will be any number of firearms control bills come up in Congress each and every year.

    Some are from diehard banners, such as McCarthy to single issue politicians to those "paying off" special interest groups that helped get them elected.

    Unless a bill has a substantial number of heavy hitter co-sponsors it will wither and die in committee, vis HR 45.

    Keep an eye on the NRA-ILA web site, filter as appropriate with an eye to is an alert being bruted to raise cash and you should get a good idea as to what is worth worrying about.

    COULD Son of AWB happen, yes, is is probable in the current politico-economic cycle, much less so.

    Pick your fight for your rights
     
  7. eye5600

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    You didn't listen to the speech last night, did you? The President laid out an agenda more ambitious than all of Clinton and Bush put together, and didn't mention guns.
     
  8. TexasRifleman

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    It's not ignorance, it's very much for real what they want to do and you are right to worry, we just can't panic.

    That "border safety" crap is just the handiest excuse at the moment.

    A month ago it was the Five Seven handgun that was causing all the problems, now it's "assault weapons".
     
  9. Leanwolf

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    It would not make one bit of difference whatsoever if the border were closed completely and if every firearm were stopped from "going south," the Mexican narco gangsters would still get all they wanted. Foreign gangs would merely smuggle them into Mexico from foreign countries.

    The Mexican narco gangsters have literally billions of U.S. dollars, cash money on the barrel head, sitting around in their "coffers." They would have no trouble at all, buying all the firearms, ordanance, and ammo they wanted.

    There is a gigantic network of foreign smugglers, worldwide, dealing in the trade of anything anyone wants, so long as the money is there to pay for it.

    Eric Holder and The Great Lord Obamacus Rex The Magnificent, The One Mighty And Strong, The Most Righteous Savior Of Mankind, are merely using the "stop guns to Mexico" cry as a lying ruse to eventually disarm American citizens.

    Anyone interested, BTW, in reading an excellent book on the international smuggling trade should buy a copy of "McMAFIA, A Journey Through The Global Criminal World," by Misha Glenny, Alfred A. Knopf Publs., (c)2008.

    It's an eye opener!!

    L.W.
     
  10. NavyLCDR

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    +1 All it does is drive prices up, availability down. Just like gas. Oh well, what can we do? One half of the population panics because we have guns and the other half panics because we can't get 'em.
     
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    Personally I think it would be foolish for Dems to attempt to harm a thriving sector of our economy given the current climate. Of course that's assuming politicians weren't foolish, but it seems like it would be another reason to leave guns alone right now.
     
  12. The Lone Haranguer

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    Yet, being the operative word.
     
  13. HydeSmyler

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    eye5600 I did watch the speech last night and
    I'm sure many americans did.
     
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    20:25 minute mark.
     
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    My two cents worth, and I'm pretty convinced that I'm right:

    I don't think they are going to do anything on gun control, except possibly the "gun show loophole". With the economic problems, gun just aren't on the radar screen right now.

    HOWEVER, I truly believe they are just waiting for some lunatic to shoot up some mall or school (heaven forbid) to ram through something a lot worse than the Clinton ban, and so fast that it will make your head spin.
     
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    You're probably right, fatelk. I agree with you 100%
     
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    Maybe they'll write an AWB just to change the subject of the economy because they aren't' going to fix that any time soon.
     
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    I can't get the video thru the corporate firewalls/proxies. Can somebody try to fat-finger in a transcript of his specific RKBA-related quotes?
     
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    I'm sorta new to the 'gun culture', but if an American wanted to get a full-auto AK-47 illegally, wouldn't we go to Mexico to get it? Not the other way around as they seem to suggest on CSPAN? Are Mexico's gun laws stricter than ours?
     
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    They know how many elections were lost in the past over gun legislation. They will have enough trouble keeping there jobs with all the spending they are doing. People are getting tired of it and many are finally waking up.
     
  22. SrDedosRapidos

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    Yeah... im not too worried about it yet, but it is coming and i will be ready.

    They've simply got too much on their plate right now to worry about this. I would say that once the economy has been stabilized (or its destruction has been finalized... ) then we can start to sweat a little bit.
     
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    The new administration is not stupid. The fact that, for the last several months, America has been buying guns and ammo faster than they can be produced has got to tell them that the time is not ripe for new restrictions. As annoying as the gun buy-up is (especially if you'd like to go target shooting but there is no ammo to be found ANYWHERE), I think that it sends a loud and clear message that America is not ready to turn in her guns.


    I don't think we can count on the economic troubles to keep them distracted from their gun-ban agenda. Remember, the first and most restrictive federal gun control was implemented in the middle of the Great Depression.

    I think the best strategy is to continue reminding them that gun control is not going to be a wise political move, rather than hoping that the economy will keep them distracted.
     
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    They don't. When the gun grabbers can't even count on a Democratic senator from New York being in their camp, their cause is lost. :neener:

    Right now, I'm saving my money for after the current run on guns peters out. When that happens, you're going to see some deals of a lifetime on guns and ammo.:D
     
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