FPC/SAF file Post Office gun ban lawsuit

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Start of FPC v Garland (Post office gun ban) - https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-sues-feds-to-end-post-office-gun-ban

FORT WORTH, TX (June 18, 2024) – Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) announced the filing of a new federal Second Amendment lawsuit, filed in the Northern District of Texas, challenging the constitutionality of federal gun laws prohibiting firearm possession, storage, and carry at post offices and related properties. The case is captioned Firearms Policy Coalition, et. al. vs. U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland. Case documents can be viewed at FPCLegal.org.​
“The Second Amendment protects the individual right to possess and carry firearms outside of their home for lawful purposes, including at post offices. But unlike the USPS, we can promise that Attorney General Garland will receive this message on time,” said FPC President Brandon Combs. Indeed, the U.S. Supreme Court recently agreed to hear one FPC case, and the organization has dozens more strategic lawsuits working their way to the high court.​
The case seeks a declaratory judgment that 18 U.S.C. § 930(a) and 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(l) are unconstitutional under the Second Amendment to the extent they bar the possession and carrying of firearms on United States Post Office property, a preliminary and permanent injunctions enjoining enforcement of 18 U.S.C. § 930(a) and 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(l) to the extent they bar the possession and carrying of firearms on United States Post Office property, costs and attorney’s fees, and any other relief the court deems appropriate.​
FPC is joined in the case by FPC members Gavin Pate and George Mandry as well as the Second Amendment Foundation.​
 
Well past due time for it--if this being an "ideal" sort of time to file.

The fact that USPS never posts their parking lots, so your first clue is the signage on the door has always rubbed wrong. Particularly for basically meaning that near every PO parking lot is a potential trove of not nearly well enough secured firearms.
 
I thought this was addressed a few months ago?
US v Ayala case involves postal worker carrying on federal property and the district court ruled to dismiss the charge - https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvydgelepg/01122024ayala.pdf

The United States indicted Emmanuel Ayala, a postal worker, for possessing afirearm in a Federal facility in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 930(a). Ayala argues that statute is unconstitutional as applied to him because the historical record does not support a law banning firearms in post offices.​
Relying on dicta from earlier cases, the United States responds that the Second Amendment allows it to punish the bearing of arms inside any government building. But the Supreme Court has been clear: the government must point to historical principles that would permit it to prohibit firearms possession in post offices.​
The United States fails to meet that burden. Thus, I dismiss the § 930(a) charge because it violates Ayala’s Second Amendment right to bear arms.​

FPC v Garland case involves citizens carrying in post offices - https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fi...21247/2024.06.18_001_Complaint.pdf?1718721247

Individual Plaintiffs are ordinary, law-abiding citizens. Each desires and intends to exercise his Second Amendment right to carry for self-defense at United States Post Offices and associated property in Texas ...​
... Plaintiffs sue to challenge the constitutionality of 18 U.S.C. § 930(a), which bars knowingly possessing a firearm in federal facilities, including United States Post Offices. Plaintiffs also sue to challenge the constitutionality of 39 C.F.R. § 232.1(l), which bars firearm carry and storage on property under the control of the Postal Service.​
 
The only think criminal going on at the Post Office is their lack of accountability... but I digress.

Wut? You can't carry in a post office? Who knew...?
 
Never made any sence to me here as I am a retired forest ranger and they used to issue me guns at work to carry on the job but pick up the mail I am a felon? We are the govt and here to help you...right.
 
Never made any sence to me here as I am a retired forest ranger and they used to issue me guns at work to carry on the job but pick up the mail I am a felon? We are the govt and here to help you...right.
Are forest rangers commissioned LEOs like game wardens?
 
Update to US v Ayala (USPS employee carry on post office property) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-office-gun-ban-lawsuit.931523/post-12923913

FPC Brief Explains Why the Federal Post Office Gun Ban is Unconstitutional - https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-...deral-post-office-gun-ban-is-unconstitutional
Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) announced that it has filed a brief with the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals in a criminal case about carry on U.S. Post Office property. The brief comes after FPC filed its own lawsuit directly challenging the constitutionality of this federal ban in the Northern District of Texas, called FPC v. Garland. FPC’s amicus brief in United States v. Ayala can be viewed at FPCLegal.org.​
“The United States has impermissibly deemed post offices, post office property, and, in effect, even the routes to and from post offices as gun-free zones for the law-abiding,” argues the brief. “The Second Amendment does not countenance such a sweeping ban applied to such unexceptional daily activities and locations.”​
“People have a constitutionally protected right to carry arms in and around post offices. As we explain, the law Mr. Ayala is charged with violating is unconstitutional. We look forward to ending this unconstitutional ban nationwide,” said FPC President Brandon Combs.​
 
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We are seeing NRA-ILA becoming more active, supporting FPC and FPC endorsing NRA-ILA (For this life-long NRA supporter, I am finally glad to see NRA-ILA back on the saddle again ... still with cautious skepticism ... But we are at war with the antis so we need all the allies to come together to put up a strong front. 👍) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...apply-to-future-2a-cases.931586/post-12989181


Adding to US v Ayala (USPS employee carry on post office property) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-office-gun-ban-lawsuit.931523/post-12988603

NRA Files Amicus Brief in Challenge to Ban on Carrying Firearms at Post Offices - https://www.nraila.org/articles/202...e-to-ban-on-carrying-firearms-at-post-offices

On September 24, NRA filed an amicus brief supporting a challenge to the federal ban on carrying firearms at post offices.

The government argues that the prohibition is constitutional because post offices are sensitive government buildings where arms bans are presumptively lawful.

NRA’s brief argues that under Bruen, all firearms regulations must be historically justified—even those affecting sensitive places. And historically sensitive government locations included only legislative assemblies, polling places, and courthouses. In fact, while the U.S. Post Office has existed since 1775—the whole of America’s history—the government first prohibited firearms in post offices in 1972—nearly 200 years after the Post Office’s creation.

Moreover, the brief argues, post offices are not analogous to legislative assemblies, polling places, or courthouses. The latter are all centers of democratic government deliberation—the core component of the “sensitive place” designation for government buildings. While post offices may serve an important role in national communication, they are not homes of government deliberation. And the government does not treat post offices as sensitive: post offices do not generally have limited entry or enhanced security, which might lower the need for individuals to provide for their own defense.

Thus, NRA’s brief argues that post offices are not sensitive places and, regardless, the prohibition on firearms therein is unconstitutional.

The case is United States v. Ayala. It is before the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.
 
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Adding to US v Ayala (USPS employee carry on post office property) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-office-gun-ban-lawsuit.931523/post-12989198

SAF files Amicus Brief with 11th Circuit in Postal Employee carry case - https://saf.org/saf-files-amicus-brief-with-11th-circuit-in-postal-employee-carry-case/

The Second Amendment Foundation and its partners have filed an amicus brief with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in a case involving a Florida postal worker who was indicted for possessing a firearm in a federal facility.​
He was cleared by the federal district court, and now the government is appealing. SAF and its partners are encouraging the 11th Circuit Court to uphold the district court ruling. The case is known as U.S. v. Ayala.​
Joining SAF are the California Rifle & Pistol Association, Minnesota Gun Owners’ Caucus and Second Amendment Law Center. They are represented by attorneys C.D. Michel and Konstadinos T. Moros at Michel & Associates in Long Beach, Calif.​
“In our brief,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, “we maintain the district court got it right, and we believe the ruling should be affirmed. The government has provided no evidence of a historical tradition of disarming federal employees, same as it has shown no tradition of prohibiting firearms from postal facilities. The district court said such disarmament is unconstitutional, and we believe the 11th Circuit should uphold their decision.”​
“We contend that sensitive places are intended to be rare exceptions to the right to carry by private citizens,” added SAF Executive Director Adam Kraut. “As noted in our brief, when the government designates a location to be a ‘gun-free zone’ but doesn’t provide security, it essentially admits it doesn’t really consider the place to be sensitive, yet it removes the effective means of self-defense by law-abiding citizens. The government is just arbitrarily disarming citizens. The government is trying to have it both ways.”​

U.S. v. Ayala: Another Absurd (And Unconstitutional) Restriction - https://crpa.org/news/blogs/u-s-v-ayala-another-absurd-and-unconstitutional-restriction/

CRPA, joined by the Second Amendment Law Center, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, is filing an amicus brief in a case challenging the constitutionality of the ban on carrying in post offices.​
The case is United States v. Emmanuel Ayala, a criminal case appeal in the Eleventh Circuit. Mr. Ayala is a postal worker with a Florida CCW permit who was caught carrying while at work and is now being criminally prosecuted for it. The district court ruled for Mr. Ayala because it agreed that there is no relevant history supporting banning the peaceable carry of firearms in post offices. The United States then appealed its loss.​
Our brief argues that the district court’s ruling was entirely correct and should be affirmed for several reasons. First, the district court was right to zero in on the fact that although post offices have existed since the founding era, no restriction on carrying in post offices became law until late into the 20th century. Second, the government’s argument that it can ban carry anywhere where it is the proprietor has been rejected by several courts. Third, the government argues safety is a reason it should be allowed to ban carry at post offices, but it has failed to demonstrate Mr. Ayala is dangerous. Nor could it, as given he has a CCW permit, he is part of a group that is overwhelmingly law-abiding.​
It has always been ridiculous to restrict carry in post offices, particularly for those with CCW permits. And the “balancing” test being implemented here is flatly prohibited under Bruen. We hope the Eleventh Circuit will rule accordingly and affirm the district court.​
This is yet another example of courts skirting around the Second Amendment in jurisdictions across the country. CRPA and our allies will fight wherever we can to prevent decisions like this from weakening Bruen and, as a result, our own fundamental rights.​
 
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